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Modernizing the GI Bill — Where’s Senator McCain?

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by KenH, Apr 8, 2008.

  1. KenH

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    So a liberal (McCain) is not willing to jump on board with other liberals on this issue. What are the details of this bill?
     
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    Aaaa don't sweat the details, just get it through someone will pay for it.

    Before getting too upset a look at all the other goodies the vets have already gotten or will get might be of interest. I've heard some mighty big "Education" bonus talk in the past couple years that are already theirs.
     
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    Why does it matter? You apparently have already judged it as a liberal bill.

    Why do conservatives give lip service to "supporting the troops", but when it comes down to actually doing something, they whine and moan.
     
  5. KenH

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    It is Senate Bill S.22:

    http://thomas.loc.gov

    Type in S.22 in the "Search" box.
     
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    Not what I said.

    What conservative whined and moaned about this bill?
     
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    Is there another name for it. I am not looking through one thousand bills to find it.
     
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    A few red flags...first of all, this "news story" came from a far left website; wouldn't that be a little like me quoting Ann Coulter on the state of the Obama campaign? All i saw in that article and in the comments was hatred aimed toward Republicans.

    Second, there are only 10 Republicans who have signed on to this with the vast majority of the dems...there must be a good reason for that. I'm still looking through the description myself, here is what the summary says:
    SUMMARY AS OF:
    1/4/2007--Introduced.


    Post-9/11 Veterans Educational Assistance Act of 2007 - Amends federal veterans' benefits provisions to entitle to educational assistance under the Montgomery GI Bill certain individuals who serve on active duty in the Armed Forces on or after September 11, 2001. Requires such individuals to complete the requirements of a secondary school diploma (or its equivalent) before applying for such assistance. Establishes the duration of such assistance (in most cases 36 months) and assistance amounts. Requires programs of education pursued with such assistance to be approved by the Secretary of Veterans Affairs. Allows for the pursuit of an approved program of education while on active duty. Allows, under such assistance, for the pursuit of: (1) programs on less than a half-time basis; (2) apprenticeship or other on-job training; (3) correspondence courses; (4) flight training; (5) tutorial assistance; and (6) licensure and certification tests.
    Requires such educational assistance to be used within 15 years of the individual's discharge or release from active duty (with exceptions). Allows individuals currently under the Montgomery GI Bill educational assistance program to elect to participate in the post-9/11 educational assistance program with respect to any unused entitlement.
     
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    Anyone who does not support providing generous benefits to our military personnel who risk their lives for us is not patriotic and cannot truthfully say that he/she supports our troops.
     
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    It would be a shame to not support the troops with a new GI bill. I am not a supporter of McCain. But I would be interested to hear why he opposes this.
     
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    Have you really looked into this bill to see why so many Republicans are not supporting it? Have contacted any of them to find out why? Generally if this many Republicans are reluctant about "pro-military" legislation...there has to be a reason.
     
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    Maybe they care more about their pocketbooks than other people's children.
     
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    Actually, we don't want generous benefits. Most of us don't even want recognition. Most of us would like people who haven't served to stop talking for us.
     
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    I think that most do -and you all deserve them.
     
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    Just because you served, as you often refer to, doesn't mean you have the right to speak for everyone else who has served.

    Also, the military is subservient to the civilian government, thank God!
     
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    The GI Bill along with the Marshall Plan were the best ideas of the 20th century. Instead of the normal post war depression, we produced a generation of scientists and engineers and rebuilt Europe and Japan . . . also inventing the middle class.

    On the other hand, anyone gullible enough to inlist for this war probably can't be educated.
     
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    I sincerely believe I speak for most.

    I've heard words to that effect.
     
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    As do I.:thumbs:
     
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    Wow. You do not have much faith in the men and women of our armed forces, huh?
     
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