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Moonies for Cruz

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Aaron, Apr 7, 2016.

  1. Aaron

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    http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2016-04-06.html

    Congratulations to Ted Cruz for winning his fourth primary! Usually Donald Trump wins the primaries -- where you go and vote, like in a real election. Cruz wins the caucuses -- run by the state parties, favored by political operators and cheaters.


    Until now, the only primaries Cruz has won are in Texas (his home state), Oklahoma (basically the same state) and Idaho (where Trump never campaigned).


    So now, Cruz has finally won an honest-to-goodness primary. This is great news for him, provided: (1) the general election is a caucus, and (2) the national media universally denounce Cruz's Democratic opponent the same way the Wisconsin media denounced Trump.


    In that case, Cruz should do fine.​
     
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    Yeah, Ann Coulter. The intellectual equivalent of Pixie Stix.
     
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    LaughLaughLaugh
     
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    Kind of snobbish aint it
     
  5. Aaron

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    No, just accurate. She long ago became a caricature. Live by the sword, die by the sword, someone once said.
     
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    I find no one has engaged the issues, just the person. Do you all have problems with strong women?
     
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    Which is called an adhominem
     
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    And them there is:

    fere libenter homines id quod volunt credunt
     
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    All right, if I must...

    Take a look at Cruz's so-called flip-flops in the article.

    * the number of foreign workers to be allowed
    * the TPP (Cruz was for it in principle, but once he saw the actual deal, he opposed it. This is not a flip-flop. http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...uz-i-always-opposed-tpp-trans-pacific-partne/)
    * building a border wall (Cruz was always for this, no matter what Coulter says.)
    * path to legalization. Probably the closest thing to a flip-flop on the list, though it's debatable.

    Now take a look at Trump's flip flops.

    * Pro-choice to pro-life. This one is the granddaddy of them all. This is literally a life or death issue.
    * Hillary Clinton, "very good secretary of state" to "worst secretary of state in US history".
    * Legalization of drugs, was for it, now says he's against it.
    * Taxes on the wealthy. Was once for a 14.25% tax on entities with more than $10M in assets. Now opposes
    * Gun control. Was for ban on assault weapons, expanded background checks. Now says he opposes them.
    * Health Care. Was for universal government run health care, now opposes.
    * Privatizing Social Security. Was for it, now says he opposes it.

    As to Ann Coulter look no further than her first paragraph where she calls state caucuses to be the preferred method of cheaters to select candidates.

    I don't have problems with strong women. I do have problems with bombastic, shrill, ill-informed women, however.
     
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    But the issues that matter: Illegal immigrants, Obamacare, jobs going overseas, defense, etc, Those are the real issues, and Cruz is weak, except in the Obamacare area. And that's Coulter's point, as well, the fact that once the press fixes their attention on in the manner they have on Trump, he's dead.

    And coulter is anything but misinformed.
     
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    She's wrong about Cruz opposing a border wall. She's wrong about caucuses being the method that cheaters use to select candidates. She's wrong about Cruz being for the TPP.

    That's three out of the four points of her essay that are incorrect. I'd say that's misinformed.
     
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    From your link:

    SECURE THE BORDER

    A Cruz Administration’s first priority for immigration reform will be to secure the U.S.-Mexico border. We will:

    • Build a wall that works. The unsecured border with Mexico invites illegal immigrants, criminals, and terrorists to tread on American soil. I will complete the wall.


    Quoting Slate now, are we? LOL.

    Anyway, I said legalization was the closest thing to a flip-flop, but it's debatable. Basically, you have to be able to retroactively read Cruz's mind to know what he was thinking when he introduced a path to legalization to the Gang of Eight bill. He claims he offered that amendment as a political ploy, meant to sink the Immigration Bill. You're (apparently) saying that he supports legalization. That bill didn't pass, did it?
     
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    Wall that works. It's Washingtonspeak for the virtual wall of increases patrols and surveilance.
     
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    This is too easy....

    I will fulfill the promise Congress made to the American people almost 10 years ago by completing all 700 miles of priority fencing along the U.S.-Mexico border, and dedicate the resources necessary to replace all single-layer fencing along the U.S.-Mexico border to build a fence that keeps people out and that is technology-supported and law enforcement-accessible. If other nations, such as Israel, can build an effective border wall, the United States certainly can.

    https://www.tedcruz.org/cruz-immigration-plan/
     
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    Duh. That's his flip-flop. It's just doublespeak.

    I'd still vote for him if he won the nomination, but he needs to fight like Trump or he won't prevail. It's that simple.
     
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    Sounds like you'd vote for anyone opposing Hillary Clinton. Is that about right?
     
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