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More Federal Hate Crimes On the Horizon

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Dragoon68, Jan 21, 2009.

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  1. Dragoon68

    Dragoon68 Active Member

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    The Obamanites say that "President Obama and Vice President Biden will strengthen federal hate crimes legislation, expand hate crimes protection by passing the Matthew Shepard Act, and reinvigorate enforcement at the Department of Justice's Criminal Section."

    This will further erode the jurisdiction of States over criminal acts already covered by their laws and will give the federal - now more of national - government more opportunities to impose its ideas on social re-engineering outside criminal acts.
     
    #1 Dragoon68, Jan 21, 2009
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    It was the unfair and inconsistent treatment by states that got the feds in the hate crime business. At one time you could hang a black person from a tree in the south and there was no jury around that would convict you. Now that hate appears to be toward g@y's which is what prompted this move.

    Side note... I used the restroom at a grocery store today and written on the stall wall was;

    Kill Obama

    We hate f@gg@ts...

    I let the management know but it didn't take long for the feelings to show...
     
    #2 LeBuick, Jan 21, 2009
  3. rbell

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    and I've seen "kill bush" written on public property in my state.

    losers abound...they are not relegated to one side of extremism.
     
    #3 rbell, Jan 21, 2009
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    You don't answer bad enforcement of laws by adding bad laws.

    That doesn't work.
     
    #4 rbell, Jan 21, 2009
  5. LeBuick

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    In the case of the south the feds had no laws to enforce and the south made it clear they would not enforce their laws when it came to African Americans. That is why the fed had to make it a federal crime so they could enforce the law. This must be what going on with g@ys, they are making it a federal crime so they are protected outside of CA.
     
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    For every law that is created you will live long enough to regret!

    Cheers,

    Jim
     
    #6 Jim1999, Jan 21, 2009
  7. rbell

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    They didn't have to write a new, bad law. You're wrong.

    All they had to do was enforce the law already written.

    Murder is wrong. Period. Enforce it.

    Get into "thought policing," and you've screwed up.

    You now also have a situation that makes it worse to kill a gay man in some parts of the country than a straight man.

    Why shouldn't both murderers get a death sentence? What makes killing one worse than another?

    Again...all that had to be done was enforce the laws already on the books. Writing bad laws to replace them is like saying, "hey, you shot me in the foot. I'm going to shoot myself in the other foot to get even."

    Not too bright.
     
    #7 rbell, Jan 21, 2009
  8. Dragoon68

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    Some people were hung from trees and they weren't just blacks. That was a long time ago and the need for intervention - if it ever existed - has long ago passed. Sure there are still racially motivated crimes - by all races against all races - but the crimes are covered under existing law.

    There's no need for the federal government to take over the duty of the state government. It is just another move to destroy the republic and create an single national government in which the states would be nothing more than administrative divisions of it. This is far greater danger to the liberty of all citizens than any benefit - if there were any - to being brought to justice in federal verses state court.

    Homosexuals are not entitled to any special status or special protection under the law. In fact, I think they should be charged with a crime and duly punished for their conduct. They should consider themselves blessed not to fall under the same law of Biblical times. They should be thankful that we no longer treat them so harshly. But they should not be granted any favoritism that in any way acknowledges, condones, or excuses their conduct or makes them into a "minority" class or a "diversity" group.

    You can read all sorts of hateful and disgusting comments in the walls of the stalls written by all races and some even against themselves I suppose. You'll find a lot of it in government schools.
     
    #8 Dragoon68, Jan 22, 2009
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