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Mormon Wealth

Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by church mouse guy, Jan 1, 2021.

  1. church mouse guy

    church mouse guy Well-Known Member
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    As you know, the State of Utah recently decriminalized polygamy. Rebecca Kimbel, who escaped from Mormon Fundamentalism and polygamy, says that the new law will allow the registration of tens of thousands of more plural wives and their children to receive federal welfare as Mormons accumulate billions in church funds.

    Mormonism may soon be the wealthiest religious organization in the world. When Utah became a US possession, federal subsidies accumulated from the 19th century were hoarded by the Mormon church.

    Rebecca Kimbel discusses this wealth accumulation in this very short video of a minute twenty seconds:

     
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    Our tax dollars at work.
    We could have had President Romney.

    More mon =

    more mon ey
    more mans

    breeding the beast

    and a plug for the book as well.
     
  3. church mouse guy

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    It was a commercial for the book; however, I am not able to buy the book right now. Mormonism is the subject of many critical books nowadays but the criminal organizations in breakaway Mormon sects in rural areas seems to be an unheard cry. Clearly, it is a con game to soak federal taxpayers to pay for the unsustainable excesses of polygamy. But then Mormonism was built on federal subsidies of the west.

    Romney realizes that Trump will attack pedophilia and that pedophilia is a widespread practice in Utah.

    So Mormons may soon be richer than the Vatican.
     
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    Yes, sorry. I agree they are bad news in "wholesome" clothing. For those unfamiliar:

    The 8 Beliefs You Should Know about Mormons When They Knock at the Door

    1. Apostasy and Restoration
    Mormons claim that “total” apostasy overcame the church following apostolic times, and that the Mormon Church (founded in 1830) is the “restored church.”

    If the Mormon Church were truly a “restored church,” however, one would expect to find first-century historical evidence for Mormon doctrines like the plurality of gods and God the Father having once been a man. Such evidence is completely lacking.

    Besides, the Bible disallows a total apostasy of the church (e.g., Matt. 16:18; 28:20; Eph. 3:21; 4:11-16), warning instead of partial apostasy (1 Tim. 4:1).

    2. God
    Mormons claim that God the Father was once a man and that he then progressed to godhood (that is, he is a now-exalted, immortal man with a flesh-and-bone body).

    However, based on the Bible, God is not and has never been a man (Num. 23:19; Hos. 11:9). He is a spirit (John 4:24), and a spirit does not have flesh and bones (Luke 24:39).

    Furthermore, God is eternal (Ps. 90:2; 102:27; Isa. 57:15; 1 Tim. 1:17) and immutable (or unchangeable in his being and perfections; see Ps. 102:25-27; Mal. 3:6). He did not “progress” toward godhood, but has always been God.

    3. Polytheism
    Mormons believe that the Trinity consists not of three persons in one God but rather of three distinct gods. According to Mormonism, there are potentially many thousands of gods besides these.

    However, trusting in or worshiping more than one god is explicitly condemned throughout the Bible (e.g., Ex. 20:3).

    There is only one true God (Deut. 4:35, 39; 6:4; Isa. 43:10; 44:6, 8; 45:18; 46:9; 1 Cor. 8:4; James 2:19), who exists eternally in three persons—the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit (Matt. 28:19; 2 Cor. 13:14).

    4. Exaltation of Humans
    Mormons believe that humans, like God the Father, can go through a process of exaltation to godhood.

    But the Bible teaches that the yearning to be godlike led to the fall of mankind (Gen. 3:4ff.). God does not look kindly on humans who pretend to attain to deity (Acts 12:21-23; contrast Acts 14:11-15). God desires humans to humbly recognize that they are his creatures (Gen. 2:7; 5:2; Ps. 95:6-7; 100:3). The state of the redeemed in eternity will be one of glorious immortality, but they will forever remain God’s creatures, adopted as his children (Rom. 8:14-30; 1 Cor. 15:42-57; Rev. 21:3-7). Believers will never become gods.

    5. Jesus Christ
    Mormons believe that Jesus Christ was the firstborn spirit-child of the heavenly Father and a heavenly Mother.

    Jesus then progressed to deity in the spirit world.

    He was later physically conceived in Mary’s womb, as the literal “only begotten” Son of God the Father in the flesh (though many present-day Mormons remain somewhat vague as to how this occurred).

    Biblically, however, the description of Jesus as the “only begotten” refers to his being the Father’s unique, one-of-a-kind Son for all eternity, with the same divine nature as the Father (see note on John 1:14; cf. John 1:18; 3:16, 18; see also John 5:18; 10:30).

    Moreover, he is eternal deity (John 1:1; 8:58) and is immutable (Heb. 1:10-12; 13:8), meaning he did not progress to deity but has always been God.

    And Mary’s conception of Jesus in his humanity was through a miracle of the Holy Spirit (Matt. 1:20).

    6. Three Kingdoms
    Mormons believe that most people will end up in one of three kingdoms of glory, depending on one’s level of faithfulness. Belief in Christ, or even in God, is not necessary to obtain immortality in one of these three kingdoms, and therefore only the most spiritually perverse will go to hell.

    But the Bible teaches that people have just two possibilities for their eternal futures: the saved will enjoy eternal life with God in the new heavens and new earth (Phil. 3:20; Rev. 21:1-4; 22:1-5), while the unsaved will spend eternity in hell (Matt. 25:41, 46; Rev. 20:13-15).

    7. Sin and Atonement
    Mormons believe that Adam’s transgression was a noble act that made it possible for humans to become mortal, a necessary step on the path to exaltation to godhood.

    They think that Christ’s atonement secures immortality for virtually all people, whether they repent and believe or not.

    Biblically, however, there was nothing noble about Adam’s sin, which was not a stepping-stone to godhood but rather brought nothing but sin, misery, and death to mankind (Gen. 3:16-19; Rom. 5:12-14). Jesus atoned for the sins of all who would trust him for salvation (Isa. 53:6; John 1:29; 2 Cor. 5:21; 1 Pet. 2:24; 3:18; 1 John 2:2; 4:10).

    8. Salvation
    Mormons believe that God gives to (virtually) everyone a general salvation to immortal life in one of the heavenly kingdoms, which is how they understand salvation by grace. Belief in Christ is necessary only to obtain passage to the highest, celestial kingdom—for which not only faith but participation in Mormon temple rituals and obedience to its “laws of the gospel” are also prerequisites.

    Biblically, however, salvation by grace must be received through faith in Christ (John 3:15-16; 11:25; 12:46; Acts 16:31; Rom. 3:22-24; Eph. 2:8-9), and all true believers are promised eternal life in God’s presence (Matt. 5:3-8; John 14:1-3; Rev. 21:3-7).
     
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    I know Mormons had a cotton farm of I believe 12,000 acres around Casa Grande AZ. I was the superintendent of a company that did excavation work for them. Their superintendents name was Charles ?

    They also had several other holdings
     
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