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Most Americans in Lebanon Are Hezbollah Supporters; U.S. Taxes Shouldn't Fund Their R

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Bro. Curtis, Jul 18, 2006.

  1. Bro. Curtis

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    By Debbie Schlussel
    **** AS READ ON THE AIR TODAY BY RUSH LIMBAUGH--THANKS, RUSH! **** ALSO, SCROLL DOWN FOR UPDATE ****
    One thing is lost in all the press coverage of the whining Americans who went to Lebanon of their own accord and now want us to pick up the tab to get them out.
    THE MAJORITY OF AMERICANS IN LEBANON ARE HEZBOLLAH SUPPORTERS.
    Most of them are Shi'ite Muslims, many of whom hold dual U.S. and Lebanese citizenship. Many are anchor babies born here to Muslims in the U.S. illegally. Some are illegal aliens who became citizens through rubber-stamping Citizenship and Immigration Services (and its INS predecessor) coupled with political pressure by spineless politicians.
    Of the 25,000 American citizens and green-card holders in Lebanon, at least 7,000 are from Dearborn, Michigan, the heart of Islamic America, and especially Shia Islam America. These 7,000 are mostly Shi'ite Muslims who openly and strongly support Hezbollah. Ditto for many of the rest of the 25,000 that are there.

    Many of the 7,000 plus Detroiters in Lebanon are active in Dearborn's Bint Jbeil cultural center (the Lebanese American Heritage Club also features mostly Hezbollah fans). Bint Jbeil is a Hezbollah-dominated city in the South of Lebanon, a frequent destination of Hezbollah leader Sheikh Hassan Nasrallah, who is very at home there. Bint Jbeil is a frequent source of shellings on Northern Israel.
    Bint Jbeil natives now living in our country so strongly support Hezbollah that they got Republican Congressman Joe Knollenberg (and his then top staffer, Paul Welday) and then-U.S. Senator Spencer Abraham to give Hezbollah forces in Southern Lebanon about $86 million of our tax money, no strings....


    http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/2006/07/most_americans.html

    Read the whole thing. The opinions & lack of references made me put this in politics, instead of news. What think ye ?
     
  2. KenH

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    Anyone who supports Hezbollah should not be allowed back into our country.
     
  3. genesis12

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    If true, amazing. More confusion to add to the mix.
     
  4. LadyEagle

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    Never doubted it for a second. When I first heard there were 25,000 Americans over there, I wondered what in heaven's name could be the big tourist attraction. Then I figured it out....
     
  5. Joseph_Botwinick

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    The big tourist attraction for many of these folks is family. Let's not forget that.

    Joseph Botwinick
     
  6. El_Guero

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    AMEN!!!

    Further, since Lebanese citizens ARE NOT hezbollah - I kinda doubt the statistic.

    Further, from what I have seen of Lebanese organizations - they are mostly Christian and Israeli sympathetic. If 7000 out of 25000 are sympathizers that is a problem. But, that is not the same as implying that all 25000 are disloyal.

    Doesn't anyone remember Japanese concentration camps? German concentration camps? I know, we called them internment camps.
     
  7. El_Guero

    El_Guero New Member

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    From what I heard from Lebanese Christians, one of the creation's most beautiful examples of God and His creativity.

    30 minutes from the foot of the ski slopes to the beach. Weather that makes SoCal look like DFW, with little of the smog.

    Unfortunately, the smell of cordite and burning bodies ruins the ambience for awhile every couple of decades.
     
  8. El_Guero

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    PS

    Until recently, it was also a religious haven for many groups of Christians that could not find refuge anywhere else.

    Further:
    Since the diaspora drew upon a population that was mostly Christian and the Christians were made of peoples that were often fleeing persecution, it would be reasonable to me to assume that at least half of the travelers back to Lebanon would come from the Christian Lebanese diaspora.

    Unless someone ACTUALLY has done a study and shown that the people involved were Palestinian (Israeli). Unfortunately, the continued bloodshed will eventually polarize the Muslim (& several other related religious groups) against the Lebanese and their historic support of Israel. Which is REALLY ironic, because they were mostly a French speaking colony.

    Is it a good thing that they got some of the language and little of the politics?
     
  9. Baptist in Richmond

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    I think you should find someone better than Debbie Schlussel to read. UGH! Did you see what she said about the new Superman movie, specifically about Lois Lane? I wonder if she looks at the ENTIRE world through her right-wing eyes. Someone needs to remind her that Lois Lane is a CARTOON CHARACTER, not a real person. Her opinions are almost as wildly egregious as Ann Coulter.

    Regards to you: I had a biking accident, and my wrist is badly sprained. I am out of commission for a few weeks. However, God Almighty was watching over me, as it could (and even should) have been MUCH worse, like a broken wrist or a broken collarbone.

    Hope all is well out in Big Sky Country,
    BiR (in Tampa this week)
     
  10. Bro. Curtis

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    I had never heard of her, before this. And I haven't heard Rush, lately.

    Sorry to hear about your accident. I pray for a speedy recovery.
     
  11. Joseph_Botwinick

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    Here is some info about the culture and tourism in Lebanon:

    Link

    Joseph Botwinick
     
  12. Jim1999

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    In keeping with what has been reported here, 1000's of the so-called Canadians demanding our government to get them out of Lebanon, had actually moved back to live in Lebanon. I think that dual citizenship is a problem in some areas, despite the fact I am a dual citizen as is my daughter in Florida.

    I would also like to report that the Israeli Prime Minister personally called the Canadian Prime Minister expressing his apology that 8 Canadian citizens had fallen to Israeli bombing. Considering Canada is such a small spoke in the great wheel, it was magnanimous of the Israeli PM to make such a telephone call.

    Cheers,

    Jim
     
  13. Joseph_Botwinick

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    Folks,

    I think we should keep in mind that Lebanon is not the enemy. Hezbollah is the enemy. Choosing to visit or even live in Lebanon is not automatically an endorsement of Hezbollah.

    Joseph Botwinick
     
  14. Jim1999

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    I somewhat agree with you, Joseph, but who elected the Hezbollah members of their government? Also, who are expressing openly their support for Hezbollah?

    I have nothing against any of those countries. There is and has been a problem in the Middle East for many years and it will not be settled soon, or easily.

    As a dual citizen with the UK and Canada, I doubt if I would ever make demands on the UK for my "rights" as a citizen....I am a sentimental citizen.

    Cheers,

    Jim
     
  15. Bro. Curtis

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    So you are saying that living in Canada was your choice, & you would not ask England(?) to fund your return, should (God forbid) Canada come under attack ?
     
  16. Jim1999

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    Bang on, Brother Curtis. I am Canadian through and through. I just happened to have been born in England and obviously have an affinity for England. I have been there many times and fully realize it is not the England I once knew....I am a stranger when I visit there, and actually have more attachment with the USA.........well, a little....:smilewinkgrin:

    Cheers,

    Jim
     
  17. carpro

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    This part is certainly sourced and doesn't sound like opinion.;)

    "And they are very dangerous. One of them, Lola Elzein--a student at the University of Michigan-Dearborn and an officer of the Hezbollah-supporting Arab American PAC--threatened my life and that of my family members because I've written about the group's Detroit-area extremist Hezbollah sympathizers."
     
  18. Daisy

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    It sounds like opinion to me. What she said may or may not be true, but the vulgar quotes on the page are only "apparently" left by Elzein (she didn't state why she believed "JewishLeader" to be Elzein).

    Then, on another page linked to that page - Who is Brian Moskowitz - she states, "In 2000, Moskowitz was chosen by Hillary and Bill's liberal Customs Commissioner Ray Kelly (who made affirmative-action hiring and promotions, not crime-stopping, Customs' key mission) for the prestigious, career-advancing Customs Leadership Institute (he's one of the five White males hidden in the back of the photo)." Ray Kelly, former NYC Police Commissioner is liberal? I don't think so. And then in the photo she links to (linkie), he is clearly in the front row center. Did she think no one would check?
     
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    This part is certainly sourced and doesn't sound like opinion.;)

    "And they are very dangerous. One of them, Lola Elzein (link removed, carpro, what were you thinking!)--a student at the University of Michigan-Dearborn and an officer of the Hezbollah-supporting Arab American PAC--threatened my life and that of my family members because I've written about the group's Detroit-area extremist Hezbollah sympathizers."



    It's first hand knowledge. In the absence of any proof to the contrary, I have no reason to doubt her statement.
     
  20. El_Guero

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    While Canada might be small, the effort to politically contact the PM regarding her country's citizens is probably prudent if not compassionate.


     
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