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Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by SouthernBelle, Dec 6, 2006.

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  1. carpro

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    Does this mean you are forsaking PC for GC? (Grammatically correct):smilewinkgrin:
     
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    That would be more like gender correct.

    People's preferences on self-identification should be respected. That isn't PC, that is being a nice person.
     
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    So, how do we know how they want to be referred to?:confused:
     
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    Who is "they"?

    One way is to get out of your own little world and interact with lots of people. Try to view the world through their eyes. Learn about the subcultures that make up 21st Century America.
     
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    Of course not! I try for both (the latter far less rigorously, esp. in conversation).

    Ask them, listen to what they tell you and abide by their wishes (which will vary by individual within groups). It's not all that hard.

    You might also consider why and when it is important to refer to someone by ethnicity.
     
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    Whoever the people are you are referring to who have preferrences.
     
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    Mexican, Hispanic, Latino, and American all have different connotations to different speakers.

    But, since most folks denote 'Mexican' as a citizen of Mexico, and this child is more likely a citizen of the USA rather than the USofM . . . we are both 'United States' . . . we are both Americans . . . we are both North Americans . . .

    I think that the stupid is something that should be apologized for . . . regardless of how long she punched his buttons . . .

     
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    I do and it is because of political correctness (where we refuse to acknowledge that islam is out to kill all infidels including those good Catholic Mexicans) that will be our undoing.
     
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    No, nor did I imply that. Read what I wrote again instead of jumping to some conclusion.
     
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    Um, that's not political correctness, it's realism. Islam is not a thing, it is a religion with many variations.

    Question - if you believe that all Muslims want to kill, or are obliged to kill, all Christians, then are Christians justified in killing all Muslims first?
     
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    To not hijack this thread, the answer is no.
     
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    My kid goes to a private Christian school. I know how much it costs and the sacrifices my family make to afford it. If my kid had to go to school to listen to racial slurs you bet I would be in that school office wanting to know what was to be done.

    If the parents make the kid appologize and some small punishment was dealt out then I could drop it. But if I could see the parents were defending this behavior I would push for expultion.
     
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    Hispanic is for countries that have roots to Spain, that is all countries that speak Spanish.

    Latino is used interchangeably with Hispanic but that is not always correct. It countries in the area of South America.

    Mexican referres to people who come from the country of Mexico

    All terms are ok unless you add a disparaging remark to preface them.
     
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    You are all missing the point. The issue was not the word Mexican. That word is fine.

    When you put "Stupid" infront of it then you are making the girls race into a slur.

    Should this girl have to put up with this at her school?

    Will this behavior benifit the boy when he enters the adult world?

    You are all so willing to defend what you see as PC that your have went to far in the other direction. You forget that a young is hurt because of nothing more then where her ansestors are from. Did she go home and cry (maybe) does she wish she could be white like the other kids (maybe). But you all keep defending this type of behavior.

    I guess it is better that a young girl gets hurt then a boys right to yell racial slurs on a playground be infringed upon.

    If it was my daughter and I seen your defence of your son I would push for expultion. If it was my employee I would fire him/her.

    What would happen if you went to your job and called somebody "stupid mecixan" ? Try it.
     
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    Why are you on a fishing expedition in this thread?
     
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    The thing is that mindsets like this are what has our school in such disarray and priorities mixed up. Yes, something maybe should have been done for the insult. Maybe some type of in school or home discipline. The problem is that those who keep pounding their fists, expel, expel, fire them, fire them, send them to jail, etc., will sit right there and ignore priority problems. You know, like what cant my kid read in the 4th grade, like he cannot do simple math before the first lesson in algebra, like why are so many kids on mood altering perscriptions, like the bankrupt morals a school envirnonment teaches, like what kind of home life do the kids have. You know, small things like drugs, alcohol, sex, violence, the inability to work as a team, and on and on and on.

    Really, the mindset of putting something like this thread is nothing short of baloney to be nice, and a total lack of common sense.
     
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    I agree schools are full of problems. But because there are other problems does not mean you ignore this one. I see this as a huge problem, a little girl was hurt because of nothing more then her race.

    The reality is the suspention is not so much for the girl as for the boy. He needs to be aware that he WILL be fired from his job if he said something like this.

    I have said I would fire my employee. In reality I would have no choice, the policy of my work place says that the person would be fired. Suspention is what this boy needs to understand that, if his parents would reinforce the idea that needs to get thru to him.
     
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    Prejudice is always baloney to the oppressors . . . .
     
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    If ya' wanna teach the kid how to act on the job, then I say send the boy to south texas fer a week or two . . .

    I bet he won't yell out 'stupid' to nobody . . . And I know that if he yells out, "Mexican" . . . every one will come runnin' ta' see the fight.

    He behaved in a rude manner where he thought he would not be punished.

    Put him in the barrio . . . amongst some 'chukos' . . . (that is slang for a 'pachuco' - 'cholo' as you go west), and he will learn some gentile manners . . . or he will go home hurting and with new found appreciation for manners.

    PS - not to be overly hard on the kid. It may be he accidentally said what he said. Of course, he would not make that mistake twice in the barrio.
     
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