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My voting habits have changed...

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Jack Matthews, Sep 8, 2006.

  1. Jack Matthews

    Jack Matthews New Member

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    Six years of Bush, and I, who used to vote Republican about 75% of the time, find that I cannot support a single Republican candidate in the upcoming November election.

    Third party, here I come.
     
  2. JamieinNH

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    Hiya Jack!

    I just told Ken in another thread that I was ready to help a grassroots campaign to have a solid base effective in 2008!


    http://www.baptistboard.com/showthread.php?p=853779#post853779


    With all that is going on and the power of the Christian vote, I think we should really consider getting something together that will fight the battle of corrupt politics!


    Jamie
     
  3. Jack Matthews

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    Sounds good to me, though it seems like there are a lot of conservative, evangelical Christians who would rather go ahead and waste their support on Bush and the Republicans, either by force of habit, or because they've been so brainwashed into believing that they really are interested in Christian socio-political issues. The "Religious Right" has actually gotten more of its agenda heard and acted on under Democratic Governor Bredesen here in Tennessee than it did when the Republicans were in power.

    What's up with the Constitution Party? I thought that was where Christians were organizing their political clout?
     
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    I might cast some protest votes this fall.

    I consider myself a moderate, but not the usual kind.

    I support social programs and the like but I vehemently oppose abortion and am quite conservative on similar issues.

    You can usually get by if you are a pro-choice Republican because you know that the GOP isn't ever going to do anything about abortion--they like having the issue too much.

    Unfortunately for me, I know the GOP isn't going to do anything to care for the unborn, children, or the working poor.

    Unfortunately for me, I know that the Democrats are going to actively support keeping abortion legal (a step beyond the status quo approach of the GOP--pander, get votes, then do nothing) and other socially liberal policies.

    I do find myself in a pickle here in Arkansas. For governor and lt. governor, the Democrats are too liberal and the Republicans are too conservative.
     
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    What about Bob Corker? He is endorsed by Right to Life & he wants to secure our borders. Thanks to term limits, we have no more Frist to contend with. He was sure a flop. In the primary, I did not vote for Bob Corker because they said he used to be pro-choice. But after the election, I saw where he was endorsed by Right to Life.

    Other than that, unless I can vote my current councilman out of office, I probably won't mark my ballot for either of the two major parties. They are both pretty disgusting to me - shudder. Although, I probably will vote for Bredesen.

    Hey, Jack, in 2004 I went to see Michael Peroutka at the Music City Sheridan (Constitution Party). Small turnout, rather disappointing. He got my vote, though. And we put his sign in our yard.
     
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    There are no term limits for the US Senate.
     
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    You're right. I forgot. Maybe it's because he's planning on running for the #1 spot. But he'll NEVER get my vote.
     
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    Bob Corker? Have you ever seen what Builder Bob did to Chattanooga? Take a look into it, and you will have a hard time voting for him. You will probably abstain, if there aren't any pro-life candidates available.
     
  10. Jack Matthews

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    I'm not a single issue voter. Since Roe v. Wade is the law of the land, and no one in Congress can do anything about it, to make that a campaign issue is, to me, a dishonest way to get votes by ignorance. This particular president has shown through his judicial nominees and appointments that it is way down on his list. That's the only place it can be changed, so a congressman or senator's view on the subject is moot.

    Corker won't get my vote. I'll probably vote for Ford, mainly as a means of protest. Frist was a disaster, and if he winds up as the Republican nominee in 2008, I'll vote for whoever the Democrats nominate! I don't know who Adams is, but thanks for that link. I'm leaning toward Mike Huckabee.
     
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    I wouldn't support Governor Busybody, I mean Governor Huckabee, for dog catcher. Unless you want someone as president who is soft on criminals, and who is in favor of giving taxpayer-funded college scholarships to the children of illegal aliens, and who wants to badger(at least it hasn't gone farther than that yet) you into eating and exercising the way he thinks you should, I would stay far away from a Mike Busybody, I mean Mike Huckabee, candidacy.
     
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    I don't believe he can win the nomination , either. Then you won't have to consider voting for him.
     
  13. Jack Matthews

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    I've heard about his eating and exercising habits. As to giving taxpayer funded college scholarships to the children of illegals, how many children of illegals live in Arkansas? His record on that certainly can't come close to the millions of Texas tax dollars that Bush spent for the same thing while he was governor, can it?

    It's still early, but if Huckabee's that bad, I can't think of any other Republican I would support at the moment.
     
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    These days voting 3rd party is voting republican. There are only two parties today and if you don't vote for one it's the same as voting for the other. You can't vote against a party by voting 3rd party...
     
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    This line of thinking assumes a zero-sum game. That's not the way it goes. I can choose to vote for GOP, Democrats, or a third party, or I can choose not to vote at all.
     
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    You know, it's funny how people always say that voting for a third party is a wasted vote, or it's a vote for another party. I hear that often from people who say it's a vote for the Democrats. I think it depends on the speaker's political party. All one has to do, though, is look at the actions (and even some of the speeches) of the two major parties to find that neither is really standing for the Constitution at the top levels. It's sad. If the Founding Fathers were here today, I doubt they'd be impressed.
     
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    A few years ago my voting habits changed from voting to not voting.

    Due to the mix of both majors here being evil, most of the bigger minors being even worse, Oz's preferential voting system scam (which means that even if you vote for a minor first it could eventually count towards a major getting in), and compulsory voting....I eventually came to conclusion that they can play their little Claytons democracy games, but without any further encouragement from me.

    Now when election day comes around I get my name crossed off to save a $50 fine for the crime of not going to polling station, and then turn and walk out without even looking at ballot paper, going home to a great night's sleep.....(Well, ok, a great sleep the next day, but you know what I mean ;))
     
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    That's the standard excuse for Christians who willingly support pro abortion candidates and/or same sex marriage advocates.
     
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    Somehow, it's my opinion that we are lead to believe this. Both the Dems and Reps want us to believe in this statement. It's the only way to keep it a two party system.

    If enough people got fed up and finally voted for the right person vers the right person in a certain party, then over time we would have a 3 party system.

    Would that make it better? I don't know.. More than likely it would go down the tube also, but IF the american people stood up and voted for the right person, the parties would HAVE to listen to us, and not just duck and dodge like they do now.

    WE THE PEOPLE... need to take back Washington and the Congress.

    Jamie
     
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    Pete, from Aussieland.....

    I'd say that those who don't vote have no right to complain. But, then again, you don't do much complaining.

    Good on ya.
     
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