Can you please provide the section of either the Patriot Act or the NDAA that says citizens can be detained without probable cause.
Section 412 of the Patriot Act permits indefinite detention of immigrants. Google Jose Padilla.
On November 29, 2011, the United States Senate rejected a proposed amendment to the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2012 ("NDAA") which would have banned indefinite detention by the United States government of its own citizens (Section 1021), leading to criticism that Habeas corpus in the United States has been undermined.
The House of Representatives and the Senate approved the National Defense Authorization Act in December 2011 and President Barack Obama signed it December 31, 2011.
The new indefinite detention provision of the law was decried as a "historic assault on American liberty."
The ACLU stated that "President Obama's action today is a blight on his legacy because he will forever be known as the president who signed indefinite detention without charge or trial into law."
On May 16, 2012, in response to a lawsuit filed by journalist Chris Hedges, Noam Chomsky, Naomi Wolf and others, United States District Judge Katherine B. Forrest ruled that the indefinite detention section of the law (1021) likely violates the First and Fifth Amendments of the U.S. Constitution and issued a preliminary injunction preventing the U.S. government from enforcing it.
In 2013, the House of Representatives and the Senate reauthorized the National Defense Authorization Act. The amendments to effectively ban indefinite detention of US Citizens were defeated in both chambers.
On July 17, 2013, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Second District struck down an injunction against indefinite detention of U.S. citizens by the president under the National Defense Authorization Act of 2012.
The appellate court ruled: "...Plaintiffs lack standing to seek pre enforcement review of Section 1021 and vacate the permanent injunction. The American citizen plaintiffs lack standing because Section 1021 says nothing at all about the President’s authority to detain American citizens."
On December 26, 2013, President Obama signed into law the National Defense Authorization Act of 2014. The NDAA provision first signed into law in 2012 which permits indefinite detention without trial remains in law as of 2018.
The Real ID Act did nothing more than have the states follow the federal govt guidelines in regards to the tamper ability of the states ID cards and Drivers Licenses.
The federal government has no authority to dictate to the states how they issue driver's licenses.
The Constitution Free Zone (100 miles from the surrounding US border) has been around since the 1950's, and does not impinge on a citizens rights.
I don't care if it has been around since 1776. CBP are stopping people with no probable cause. They have no reasonable suspicion that they have committed a crime, are committing a crime, or are about to commit a crime.
Even FISA warrants require authorization from a judge, in which they are used to gather information on the specific person or entity.
Secret warrants and secret judges without any public accountability. That's called "Tyranny."
Now, as to the word liberty, it is subjective and limiting.
Not to me. I paid my pound of flesh (literally, I am a disabled vet with a service connected disability) to help insure that liberty.
