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New GOP Economist

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by LeBuick, Feb 4, 2009.

  1. LeBuick

    LeBuick New Member

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    Who cares about credentials? Let's build a campaign on the foundation of Obama has no executive experience then bring in Joe the Plumber (sort of a plumber) as an economic adviser. And the fact that he packs the house makes this story even more unreal. Way to go after those Moderates GOP...

    http://features.csmonitor.com/polit...-plumber-now-advising-the-gop-on-the-economy/

     
  2. rbell

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    Only you, a democratic apologist and Obama-no-matter-what-supporter, could take his repeated hires of tax cheats, and turn them into slams against the GOP.
     
  3. LeBuick

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    I guess it left you speechless also. Joe the Plumber called in to give economic advise and all you can talk about is tax cheats who are no longer in the cabinet...
     
  4. rbell

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    What leaves me speechless are the lengths you go to in order to turn an Obama shortcoming into a GOP problem.

    The GOP could nominate Jesus and you'd find fault with it. Obama could nominate Lucifer and you'd somehow turn it into a GOP shortcoming.
     
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    Revmitchell Well-Known Member

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    What exactly are they looking for from him? Getting a perspective from and average person could be helpful and certainly out of the box. This is certainly reaching out to the public in a way no one else does. So what counsel did he give that would be problematic?
     
  6. LeBuick

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    The GOP invites Joe to speak is an Obama short coming. Perhaps I'm not following your logic.

    Not true at all but I imagine some here would have trouble with Jesus being nominated since he tended to hang out with publicans and sinners.
     
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    Revmitchell Well-Known Member

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    Really? Why don't you elaborate on this more specifically.
     
  8. LeBuick

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    I think we heard Joe's entire knowledge of the economy in the short clip and he and Obama. It doesn't take long to say, "sure we're in an economic pickle, we should do nothing, cut taxes and reduce government".

    My point is, what Joe represented was the extreme far right. What he has to say will only attract those who are already loyal to the base. You can't grow your stock fishing in your own pond and no one from the other two ponds (moderates and liberals) wants to hear the shortsighted recommendation of more tax cuts. Bush cut taxes and look where it got us.
     
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    And he also conflated socialist spending with it. A little leaven leaveneth the whole lump.
     
  10. JamieinNH

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    How did a thread about Joe become a Obama shortcoming?

    I believe the GOP is not trying to get back on it's feet, it's only using the "star" power of an average guy to reach the people.

    If they really wanted to reach us, the people that left their party, thenm they will need to do more than a "pony show' and who me where they are getting back to their reals roots.

    This Joe guy is nothing more than a sound bite and to think of him as anything more is crazy.
     
  11. JamieinNH

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    If they were looking for perspective, they would probably get more than one average guy... I feel they aren't looking for perspective so much as a sound bite to help them reel in the people again.

    They really need to go back to their roots and become the party of conservatism again if they want people like myself to vote for them again.

    This 'stunt' won't work.
     
  12. LeBuick

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    I think Joe is also a media distraction against the stimulus plan. The things the GOP complained about, putting grass on the mall and contraceptives were all removed and they still voted against it. Now their only argument is there is not enough tax cuts. That story isn't traveling too far because it's old news that we've heard many times over and never seen it actually work.

    My guess is Joe will speak to the stimulus plan as proof the average American (you know, the far right) don't support the plan and wants their representatives to say no.
     
  13. LeBuick

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    Joe is far from average... The average guy wouldn't have left his job as a plumber to ride this wave of fame. In the spirit of free enterprise I hope it works out for him but all this adds to the fact he never intended to buy his bosses plumbing business and he was never going to vote for Obama so that whole clip that made him famous was a complete setup/lie.
     
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    So where is the sound bite?
     
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    Oh, wait for it my friend... wait for it... They have to set the stage first and then....
     
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    People will often wondering why Obama was elected.. well this type of 'action' is exactly what helped him win.

    These tricks have been played out and people aren't falling for them anymore.

    If we want someone other than Obama in the WH then we need to start now and tell the GOP to stop playing games and get back to it's roots.
     
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    So when you discover it is not a trick how will you rectify this accusation?
     
  18. JamieinNH

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    If it's not a trick then I will state I was wrong, but I won't hold my breathe waiting for it...

    If it's turns out to be another gimmick, how will you react?

    It's politics as always.... nothing new..

    We will see, and time will tell.
     
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    I do not know if it is or not. But there just is not enough info to make such speculations. Beating up on Joe like this seems rash. But I guess if he is a republican.......
     
  20. JamieinNH

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    I am not beating on Joe... I am beating on the party that has put him front and center. The GOP is who my comments have been directed at.. not Joe.

    In my opinion, if the GOP wanted to get a grass roots thing going for the betterment of this country and their cause there should be an army of "Joe's" Since there is only one (who was popular during the election) I can only have the opinion that it's staged....

    time will tell... let's wait and see.
     
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