New Obama Order Could Radically Change Your Neighborhood

[Revmitchell]

....The Obama administration is moving ahead with regulations which would require local communities to provide low-income housing in up-scale neighborhoods.

The move will bring government housing to lavish new levels, while damaging the property value of American homeowners.
Even though it has been illegal to discriminate in housing since the Fair Housing Act of 1968, the Department of Housing and Urban Development believes the existence of neighborhoods which are economically better-off creates a type of segregation.

The new law will force upper-middle class areas to accommodate low-income housing.

Critics argue this will effectively give control of local neighborhoods to federal bureaucrats.

“American citizens and communities should be free to choose where they would like to live and not be subject to federal neighborhood engineering at the behest of an overreaching federal government,” said Representative Paul Gosar (R-AZ).

But the left is praising the plan as a way to diversify wealthy neighborhoods.
“We have a history of putting affordable housing in poor communities,” said Debby Goldberg, vice president at the National Fair Housing Alliance.

Once again the left has omitted the laws of economics from their ambitions.


http://www.thefederalistpapers.org/us/alert-new-obama-order-could-radically-change-your-neighborhood

 

[Revmitchell]

Marxism is nothing but shared misery

 

[Zaac]

What are they gonna do? Buy up property in neighborhoods? If your neighborhood is like mine, there's no room to just build more housing.

Now if the feds want to buy up property and put folks in it, as long as they maintain it, I'm good.

 

[MicahJF612]

What is actually going on is that the 'left' are calling out the ghetto-ization of inner cities. As richer communities move out of the area, poverty abounds and hurts those left behind. The phenomenon of 'white flight' continues to this day, and if we are to stand for justice and love for our fellow man, as is our heritage as Baptists, we ought to praise these efforts. In large part, what is actually going on is just that small areas of land are being bought by local non-profit or governmental community organizations (such as, in my area, the Jackson County Housing Board), and then being used to create affordable housing. It's not like the government is ceasing million dollars homes and giving them to a bunch of drug dealers.

Frankly, this sort of 'us' versus 'them' mentality flies in the face of the teachings of Christ. We are meant to live with one another in unity, not just those who have as nice of homes as we do. Why else would Jesus spend his time with thieves and prostitutes?

 

[Crabtownboy]

Heaven help Rev. he might actually have to live near a poor person. Wouldn't that be terrible to not be isolated in your middle-class ghetto.

Grow up Rev.

 

[Bro. Curtis]

Now if the feds want to buy up property and put folks in it, as long as they maintain it, I'm good.

I can't think of a case yet where that has happened. Public housing projects are never kept up like the campaign promises tell us.

 

[Crabtownboy]

I can't think of a case yet where that has happened. Public housing projects are never kept up like the campaign promises tell us.

Yours is the best argument I have seen for establishing mixed income neighborhoods.

 

[Zaac]

What is actually going on is that the 'left' are calling out the ghetto-ization of inner cities. As richer communities move out of the area, poverty abounds and hurts those left behind. The phenomenon of 'white flight' continues to this day, and if we are to stand for justice and love for our fellow man, as is our heritage as Baptists, we ought to praise these efforts. In large part, what is actually going on is just that small areas of land are being bought by local non-profit or governmental community organizations (such as, in my area, the Jackson County Housing Board), and then being used to create affordable housing. It's not like the government is ceasing million dollars homes and giving them to a bunch of drug dealers.

Frankly, this sort of 'us' versus 'them' mentality flies in the face of the teachings of Christ. We are meant to live with one another in unity, not just those who have as nice of homes as we do. Why else would Jesus spend his time with thieves and prostitutes?

Well said.:applause:

 

[Bro. Curtis]

Yours is the best argument I have seen for establishing mixed income neighborhoods.

Establishing mixed income neighborhoods ? Sounds kind of statist. And it does not address my statement at all.

 

[matt wade]

I can't think of a case yet where that has happened. Public housing projects are never kept up like the campaign promises tell us.

And add to the fact that public housing ends up full of thugs and wanna be thugs that don't care about their neighborhood and instead do everything they can to devalue their neighborhood.

 

[Bro. Curtis]

And Jesus never hung around any unrepentant sinners, so using him as an example of why we shouldn't move to a better neighborhood fails.

Lot left, and was blessed.

 

[Gina B]

I've lived in low income. A lot of people there were just poor, but a dispropotionate number were drug addicts, alcoholics, and criminals. Gangs would try to take over and I'd have to run out people fighting, carrying guns, and parents had to worry about no name bullets hitting their sleeping kids at night. Illness was more prevalent because people could not get appropriate care, some police officers would take advantage of the women, drug dealers tried to exploit the children, and the government would snatch up cute kids or come force parents to let them take nude pics of the kids under threat of taking them, because nobody could fight back.
People are motivated to get AWAY from that. They want better for their kids, better for themselves. They move AWAY from crime, and they should not be forced to not be able to have some peace. I cannot imagine how people would feel to escape that, only to be forced to live among that again. It would be spirit crushing.

 

[Crabtownboy]

I've lived in low income. A lot of people there were just poor, but a dispropotionate number were drug addicts, alcoholics, and criminals. Gangs would try to take over and I'd have to run out people fighting, carrying guns, and parents had to worry about no name bullets hitting their sleeping kids at night. Illness was more prevalent because people could not get appropriate care, some police officers would take advantage of the women, drug dealers tried to exploit the children, and the government would snatch up cute kids or come force parents to let them take nude pics of the kids under threat of taking them, because nobody could fight back.
People are motivated to get AWAY from that. They want better for their kids, better for themselves. They move AWAY from crime, and they should not be forced to not be able to have some peace. I cannot imagine how people would feel to escape that, only to be forced to live among that again. It would be spirit crushing.

Thanks for the post Gina.

 

[MicahJF612]

And Jesus never hung around any unrepentant sinners, so using him as an example of why we shouldn't move to a better neighborhood fails.

Lot left, and was blessed.

Awkward moment when those are the only people Jesus hung out with-- and that's why they came to repentance.

:thumbs:

 

[poncho]

Why am I not surprised the same government that has a policy of creating division and bending over backwards to make sure the "too big to fail" banks and corporations have a clear path to loot the economy and rob from the poor would come up with a plan like this?

 

[carpro]

....The Obama administration is moving ahead with regulations which would require local communities to provide low-income housing in up-scale neighborhoods.

The move will bring government housing to lavish new levels, while damaging the property value of American homeowners.
Even though it has been illegal to discriminate in housing since the Fair Housing Act of 1968, the Department of Housing and Urban Development believes the existence of neighborhoods which are economically better-off creates a type of segregation.

The new law will force upper-middle class areas to accommodate low-income housing.

Critics argue this will effectively give control of local neighborhoods to federal bureaucrats.

“American citizens and communities should be free to choose where they would like to live and not be subject to federal neighborhood engineering at the behest of an overreaching federal government,” said Representative Paul Gosar (R-AZ).

But the left is praising the plan as a way to diversify wealthy neighborhoods.
“We have a history of putting affordable housing in poor communities,” said Debby Goldberg, vice president at the National Fair Housing Alliance.

Once again the left has omitted the laws of economics from their ambitions.


http://www.thefederalistpapers.org/us/alert-new-obama-order-could-radically-change-your-neighborhood

Meanwhile, some local governments and states have been passing laws protecting property owners from an over-reaching federal government.

In those places, the king's orders mean nothing and will not be obeyed.