New Orleans Speech

[NaasPreacher (C4K)]

Did you see it? Thoughts? impressions?
Edited to correct typo in title

[ September 16, 2005, 06:21 AM: Message edited by: C4K ]

 

[Rocko9]

Saw it, was good, what's up with that little jaw twitch that you can sometimes see him do when he finishes a sentence.

 

[ASLANSPAL]

C4K I think Karen Hughes was probably involved with this speech seemed poetic towards the end
with all the analogies.

If you watched CNN you kinda got Bush is now
FDR/LBJ if you watched Fox you got Dick Morris
hyperventilating that this was the new and improved roll it on out Compassionate Conservative
Bush that was spending all this money for a good
cause.

It is quite telling and deafening that not much
response on this board. People may be shocked or
they may be waiting for the Rush Limbaugh lead
in how to respond.

At the end it was a very good speech and I support
the efforts to rebuild the Gulf. The pundits except Morris seemed to say Bush did not have a bull horn moment or hit it out of the park, but like I said the middle to end of the speech was very good.

To bad he did not have some of these choice lines
when he gave the speech in the Rose Garden just
after the disaster. Now that would have been a bullhorn moment.

Compliments to the person who wrote the tail end of the speech(Karen Hughes?)

At the beginning you could tell he was reading off
the teleprompter but he seemed to re focus at the
middle and the end. He was less tense towards the
end and relaxed...Rocko9( only noticed once his
mouth in contortion as he approached the microphone as if he was trying to bite his lip.

Other than that the details are huge 200 billion
dollars will send shock-waves through Republican
land and those who see this President as the
biggest spender in history.

One other thing the spending in Iraq is so out of
control and now he wants to spend 200 billion in the gulf...He is going to have to answer about Iraq spending and its waste if he expects to get 200 billlion from the taxpayers. imho

 

[NaasPreacher (C4K)]

All I watched was the speech from Fox's site. I never watch post speech commentaries

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I thought the president did an excellent job. He seemed assured and assuring. I though he admitted that there were flaws and would take action of fix those flaws.

Over all? The right speech at the right time.

 

[Joseph_Botwinick]

I don't think they should rebuild New Orleans. It was a rotten cesspool before the hurricane and is even worse now.

Joseph Botwinick

 

[billwald]

Not a hint that the cost will simply be added to the national debt.

 

[msinave]

I think if Jacksonville, Arkansas should ever encounter some sort of disaster, we should not rebuild it. It obviously is inhabited by a cesspool of uncompassionate, bigoted, conclusion jumpers.

NOW, that said, perhaps when things are posted on here, the poster should remember to be more sensitive to other people. I was born and raised in N.O., have lived away for 20 years but am still and will always be a New Orleanian at heart. It is no more a cesspool than any other major city and I would like an explanation as to why it will be "worse" after the hurricane. One would think a board of "Christians" would be more compassionate and less judgmental.

 

[TexasSky]

I don't know Joseph.
I was thinking about that.

Anyone seen "Ann Rice" crying over the city shutting down? She is famous for books on vampires and sex.

My daughter said when she used to visit New Orleans she was afraid to get off the bus for the groups she was with because there was so much occult in the region.

On the one hand, bringing back the Jazz capital of the world, bringing back the home-town of hundreds of thousands of people, reopening the largest port in the nation.

On the other hand it means bringing back Madis Gras, drinking, and the occult.

BUT - it might ALSO mean, not spreading that drinking, partying, and occult activities to the rest of the US.

 

[here now]

Originally posted by Joseph_Botwinick:
I don't think they should rebuild New Orleans. It was a rotten cesspool before the hurricane and is even worse now.

Joseph Botwinick

Where do you suggest the evacuees move to?
Jacksonville, Arkansas maybe?

 

[PamelaK]

My intention is not to be uncompassionate, however, just how sensible is it to rebuild a city in a bowl below sea level?? I do feel terribly for those who have lost their homes and understand how they must want to go "home", but I don't believe rebuilding in the same place is the answer.

 

[WHYME]

My impression of the speech; CCC, WPA, Vista, Job Corp, War on Poverty The NEW DEAL, & THE GREAT SOCIETY With a lot of steroids rolled up into one neat package at a cost of $7000 for every man woman and child in the USA

 

[bruren777]

Amen misinave!

 

[prophecynut]

I did not listen to his speech, can't stand the guy.

Wayne Madsen Report I like.

http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/

September 16, 2005 -- Bush announces plan to help big business to "recover" from Hurricane Katrina. Speaking in a Karl Rove-staged photo op from New Orleans last night, President Bush announced a series of measures that will ensure tax breaks for big business, a permanent Diaspora for the city's poor, and the future gentrification of poor and middle class sections of the flooded city.

The Bush speech reflected both Rove's emphasis on spin and a lack of interest in the plight of the poor. Although Bush accepted responsibility for the "problem" of his administration's poor response effort, he quickly diverted his priorities to workers' recovery accounts (something that sounds suspiciously like medical savings accounts); a "Gulf Opportunity Zone" offering big tax breaks to corporations in Louisiana, Mississippi, and Alabama; and a homestead lottery scheme to build homes on federal lands.

Bush obviously is not for the common man, rather he caters to the wealthy. Another opportune time for big business just like the Iraqi war.

 

[Bro. Curtis]

I am far from wealthy. But every paycheck I have ever recieved has been from a wealthy person. God bless them.

Hey P-Nut, what do you think of the parable of the talents ? What message is Christ giving us ? More than one ? Is it a sin to have money ?

 

[Bro. Curtis]

I loke that site, BTW. He's funny, asking people to give him money so he can keep a free press.

Also, he has some pretty anti-Christian views....

And he calls Bush an awful name, certainly that had to offend someone who reads the bible as much as you do. Is that a Christ-like attitude ?

The more I read that site, the more offensive it gets. I think the mods should give a look-see.

 

[Joseph_Botwinick]

Originally posted by msinave:
I think if Jacksonville, Arkansas should ever encounter some sort of disaster, we should not rebuild it.

If it was a disater on the level as that in New Orleans, the local government had been so incomptent in their reaction and preperation for the disaster as they were in New Orleans, and if polls were to say only 43% of those who once lived there even wish to return as it is in New Orleans, I would absolutely agree with you. Thus far, none of these things have occured.

43 Pct. of Evacuees Want to Go Home.

Apparently, not even half of the people who live there seem to think as highly as you do of the cesspool that is 10 feet below sea level, on the gulf, with a local government that is incompetent and doesn't care about them... many of them probably look at this as an opportunity to get out of that rat-hole that is worse than ever and start better lives elsewhere...and you know what? I don't blame them.

It obviously is inhabited by a cesspool of uncompassionate, bigoted, conclusion jumpers.

NOW, that said, perhaps when things are posted on here, the poster should remember to be more sensitive to other people.[/QUOTE]

Hey Pot...look at your first sentence and then call the kettle black. Perhaps you should remember to be more sensitive to other people and not jump to any conclusions without knowing all the facts.

The bottom line is that we, the American taxpayers are going to spend billions of dollars to rebuild a city that is 10 feet under sea level on the coast (which probably never should have been built in the first place), that has a local government which failed miserably to prepare for the inevitable and protect its citizens, which is such a miserable place to live that the majority of folks who evacuated from there don't want to come back (in fact, are probably happy to have an opportunity to get out of the cesspool of poverty and corruption, all to probably have much the same thing happen a few years later. I am all for helping those who have evacuated relocate and find a better life. But, there is simply no good reason to waste billions of dollars rebuilding that cesspool of poverty, corruption.

Joseph Botwinick

 

[Joseph_Botwinick]

Originally posted by here now:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Joseph_Botwinick:
I don't think they should rebuild New Orleans. It was a rotten cesspool before the hurricane and is even worse now.

Joseph Botwinick

Where do you suggest the evacuees move to?
Jacksonville, Arkansas maybe? </font>[/QUOTE]Personally, it matters not to me where they relocate. I know several folks who like the Little Rock area a lot better than New Orleans. I don't mind paying to help these folks out and help them relocate and make a better life for themselves. I have been, and in fact, am helping evacuees that I personally know get their lives back together the best I can (food, furniture, etc...). But, if they want to rebuild the city just to have it destroyed again, I say let them pay for it themselves.

Joseph Botwinick

 

[NaasPreacher (C4K)]

Originally posted by prophecynut:
I did not listen to his speech, can't stand the guy.

Wayne Madsen Report I like.

http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/

</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />

September 16, 2005 -- Bush announces plan to help big business to "recover" from Hurricane Katrina. Speaking in a Karl Rove-staged photo op from New Orleans last night, President Bush announced a series of measures that will ensure tax breaks for big business, a permanent Diaspora for the city's poor, and the future gentrification of poor and middle class sections of the flooded city.

The Bush speech reflected both Rove's emphasis on spin and a lack of interest in the plight of the poor. Although Bush accepted responsibility for the "problem" of his administration's poor response effort, he quickly diverted his priorities to workers' recovery accounts (something that sounds suspiciously like medical savings accounts); a "Gulf Opportunity Zone" offering big tax breaks to corporations in Louisiana, Mississippi, and Alabama; and a homestead lottery scheme to build homes on federal lands.

Bush obviously is not for the common man, rather he caters to the wealthy. Another opportune time for big business just like the Iraqi war. </font>[/QUOTE]That's good PN, don't listen to the speech yourself. Let someone else decide for you how to interpet it.

Is this the kind of "informed electorate" we depend on to vote for our leaders? No wonder the writers of the Constitution didn't trust us to elect our president or senators directly. Seems they were smart men.

 

[poncho]

Great speech.

George Bush man of the hour.

Probably the only president in history to federalize a whole state and make it look cool!

If only Abe Lincoln had it so easy back in the day.

1 down 49 more to go. Go Dubya!!!!!

 

[billwald]

Move the evacuees to Mass. They will all vote for Sen Ted K. and whatshisface.