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NIV Compared with NIrV

Discussion in 'Bible Versions & Translations' started by Rippon, Jan 1, 2017.

  1. Rippon

    Rippon Well-Known Member
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    Since buying the latest NIrV in October I have been reading that particular translation most of the time.
    Yes, it's written at a third grade level. The sentences are shorter and "difficult" words (from the NIV) are
    substituted with easier alternatives. Nevertheless, it's a refreshing read.

    I will cite some readings from the NIrV above and the NIV below in pairings. I will not cite entire verses, just
    snippets.

    Galatians
    3:19 : a go-between
    a mediator

    5:10 : The one who has gotten you all mixed up will have to pay the price
    The one who has is throwing you into confusion. whoever they may be, will have to pay the penalty.

    5:12 : I wish they would cut off everything that marks them as men!
    I wish they would go the whole way and emasculate themselves!

    1 Corinthians
    6:7 : you've lost the battle already
    you have been completely defeated already

    7:31 : all wrapped up in them
    engrossed in them

    2 Corinthians 2:14 : Christ's victory parade
    Christ's triumphal procession
     
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    Interesting.

    Compared to your other examples, I don't really see where "you've lost the battle already" is any more difficult than "you have been completely defeated already."

    Thanks for the review.
     
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    Philippians 1:21
    life finds all its meaning in Christ
    to live is Christ

    Colossians 2:18
    They are proud of their useless ideas
    they are puffed up with idle notions


    Titus 1:7
    He must not push people around
    not overbearing
     
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    1 Peter
    1:2 : covenant relationship
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    Comment : It's interesting that for the above in the NIrV there is no such equivalent phrase in the NIV.
    As a matter of fact the NIrV shies away from using the word "covenant" in other verses. But here is an exception.

    3:3
    Fancy hairstyles don't make you beautiful
    Your beauty should not come from ...elaborate hairstyles

    5:4
    The water of the flood is a picture
    this water symbolizes

    5:7
    Turn all your worries over to him.
    Cast all your anxiety on him
     
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    2 Peter
    1:12
    you now have deep roots in the truth
    firmly established in the truth

    2:14
    They stare at women who are not their wives. They want to sleep with them.
    With eyes full of adultery

    They have mastered the art of getting what they want
    they are experts in greed

    2:16
    It tried to stop the prophet from doing a very dumb thing.
    restrained the prophet's madness.

    2:22
    A pig that is washed goes back to rolling in the mud.
    A sow that is washed returns to her wallowing in the mud.
     
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    So, for sprinkled blood it has "covenant relationship"? That is the only thing I can think of where they would get that. That is a lot of interpretation applied there. Not wrong, but excessive.

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    *I realize it is much closer to a paraphrase than the tradtional NIV, but that is a complete paraphrase right there
     
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    We breifly used the NIrV for our children's church. But some of the verses where to long to memorize. So we use the NLT for the children now.

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    1 John
    1:9
    He is faithful and fair.
    he is faithful and just

    4:2
    Every spirit agreeing that Jesus Christ came in a human body belongs to God.
    every spirit that acknowledges Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God.

    Revelation
    4:6
    In the inner circle
    In the centre

    5:11
    millions and millions of angels
    many angels, numbering thousands upon thousands, and ten thousand times ten thousand.

    6:2
    like a hero on his way to victory
    as a conqueror bent on conquest

    6:6
    leave the olive oil and wine alone!
    do not damage the oil and wine!

    Romans
    1:4
    I have a duty
    I am a debtor

    3:23
    No one measures up to God's glory
    [all] fall short of the glory of God
     
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    Okay, the verses may have been too long to memorize on occasion. The sentences are shorter,
    but they are more numerous than both the NIV and NLT.

    But for a child of eight the NLT may prove to be a bit unwieldy. I am looking at 2 Cor. 1:8 :
    NLT : We think you ought to know, dear brothers and sisters, about the trouble we went through
    in the province of Asia. We were crushed and overwhelmed beyond our ability to endure, and
    we thought we would never live through it.

    NIrV : Brothers and sisters, we want you to know about the hard times we had in Asia Minor. We were having a lot of trouble. It was far more than we could stand. We even thought we were going to die.

    The word amounts are the same. But there is far more ease for a young child to memorize that then the NLT rendering. But this angle makes for an interesting topic for the future: NIrV Vs. NLT For Preteens.
    Hmm...preteens or pre-tens (my neologism) or predouble digit ages (before 10 year olds.
     
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    Hebrews
    3:13 : Di it as long as there is still time.
    as long as it is called 'Today'

    4:14
    So let us hold firmly to what we say we believe
    let us hold firmly to the faith we profess

    4:15
    We have a high priest who can feel it when we are weak and hurting
    For we do not have a high priest who is unable to feel sympathy for our weaknesses

    6:10
    God is fair
    God is not unjust

    6:19
    most holy room
    inner sanctuary

    8:2
    sacred tent
    true tabernacle

    8:13
    And what is out of date
    what is obsolete

    10:38
    the one who pulls back
    the one who shrinks back

    12:25
    Be sure that you don't say no to the one who speaks
    See to it that you do not refuse him who speaks

    12:28
    Let us worship him with deep respect and wonder
    worship God acceptably with reverence and awe

    13:7
    copy their faith
    imitate their faith
     
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    IMO, the NIrV is a good option for children (or those with a similar reading level). Ideally, you would grow out of it and move on to the NIV, NLT, or some other translation as a preteen or adolescent.
     
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