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Obama: Will discard Bush Exec. Orders He deems *unconstitional*

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by LadyEagle, May 23, 2008.

  1. ajg1959

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    Look up the May 4, 1970 shooting of students at Kent State University. They were conducting a peaceful demonstration until the troops arrived with fixed bayonets to disperse them.

    Dont say it cant happen because it already has.

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  2. NaasPreacher (C4K)

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    I have read about these fears over and over again over the last 40 years. I am no more afraid now than I ever have been. To say that "people of colour" will riot in streets is, to my mind, an unwise characterisation.


    After President Obama takes office there will be two years where he will have some measure of congressional support. In 2010 Republicans will regain the House and same old stalemate will result. There will be a peaceful transition of power on 2009, and I suspect back to a Republican President in 2013.


    So, our only hope is that he get nominated, but not elected. If he is not nominated we have race riots, if he is elected we have marital law.

    There are some, indeed, who thrive on living in a State of Fear.
     
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    I don't have to look it up, since I was a schoolboy at the time and remember it well. Ok I'll admit you have a point. On the other hand, those were very different times as there were riots across the country, with many injuries and some deaths occuring. Inexperienced National Guard troops at Kent panicked and fired. NG troops also fired on the bonus protestors after WWI and striking coal miners back in the 20's etc. Different times.
     
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    More of his inexperience on display.

    It's not as easy as he thinks it is.
     
  5. NiteShift

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    Those demonstrations were covered extensively. I remember hours of TV coverage.

    Yeah, videos of a training exercise observed by foreign police officers are really scary. Especially that stirring Germanic-sounding background music.

     
  6. John18

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    I find it disturbing that someone would support and vote for a man that is for abortion and gay marriage/civil unions.

    We are warned about homosexuality and we have been told what happened to Sodom and Gomorrah.

    We have been warned about those that call evil good and good evil yet it seems that many have chosen to ignore this.

    We have seen over and over again in the Bible what has happened to those nations that turn their back on God.The US is not exempt from the same fate.

    When a person casts a vote,they are supporting what that candidate stands for,you cant pick and choose what you approve of and then turn around and say that we need morals in our country.

    When a candidate is a liberal as Obama,a 95 out of 100 score on the liberal scale,it is rather scary that someone can support him.

    The US is in a dangerous situation and it seems that many have left the old paths and are following the new.

    It seems that many are trying to straddle the fence when it comes to political candidates.

    On one side,they support what they consider to be good while they then on the other side say that morals are needed.

    People,you cant have it both ways.You cant support a candidate on some issues while you over look the huge ones that are destryong our nation.

    Homosexuality and abortion are things that are going to bring our nation to ruin and many seem to overlook the destrucive nature of their acts.
     
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  7. NiteShift

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    Quote:
    Worldwide, terrorist attacks are down 40% from seven years ago.

    VANCOUVER — A group of researchers from Simon Fraser University says global terrorism is on the decline, despite previous data and public perceptions that suggest otherwise.

    The university's Human Security Report Project says fatalities from terrorist attacks around the world have, in fact, decreased by 40 per cent since 2001.

    LINK
     
  8. ajg1959

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    Liberals will deny any good news about the reduction of terrorism or the war in Irag until they can get a Dem in the whitehouse. The news media only reports the negative because they are all liberals and push that agenda.....(except for Fox News). The news media is to blame for the nations hatred of Bush, they have been on a campaign to smear him since he took office. I am not a Bush fan, but it is because of some of his policies that cater to public preassure instead of what is best for our country.

    At any rate, Libs will deny and even lie as long as it advances their cause.

    One more thing, as far as the topic of this thread.....I have put alot of thought into this and have concluded that Obama in reality wont change a whole lot of policy if he is elected. For instance, he claims he will withdraw our troops from Iraq......that is impossible to do without opening the door for WWIII. If we left, then Iran will move right in and control over one quarter of the worlds oil production....plus they could situate their missles on the western border of Iraq giving them a clear and easy shot at Isreal, who Iran has vowed to "wipe off of the face of the map" Obama cannot withdraw our troops any more than Bush can, and I wish the libs would open their eyes instead of following Obama with such "Blind Faith"

    And his social issues, and military reduction claims, and nuclear disarmanent, even abortion and gay marriage...he cant change these without causing a huge uproar, and without alot of congressional and judicial backing. He is blowing smoke.

    No, Obama can say all of this to get elected, but if he really believes that he can do it then he is even more inept than most of us believe.

    I still think he is dangerous tho, because even if he CANT do these things, he is dangerous because he WANTS to. And if he gets even a small crack to slide some of his policies thru, he will.

    AJ
     
  9. NaasPreacher (C4K)

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    Wow! Just saw this - lets get back on topic before this has to be moved to a private forum. If you goes want to discuss that please take it up in the Private Men's Forum.

    I am deleting all posts on that topic to keep Google ads away.

    This is a "what if" thread, not a place for discussing issues.
     
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    Huh? What posts?
     
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    They were on a topic we don't discuss on public forums.
     
  12. poncho

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    Hours of tv coverage? Woo Hoo! :laugh:
    Hmmm, I actually anticipated this remark NS. I call it the art of the drive by garbage chucker. There isn't a cart of groceries out there that's safe from them.

    Poisoning the well is the technical term. Please NS. Please...learn a different trick this one's tread is wearing mighty thin amigo.:cool:
     
  13. NiteShift

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    Yes hours. And C-Span covered all the protests for several days. What did you expect, that they'd make a movie about it?


    Sure sure. You post links to a training exercise and portray it as if it was the real thing.

    You talk about civilians hired as role-players for the exercise as screaming "I have rights! I have rights!" and being "dragged off to camps" as if it were real. But I'm the one using tricks. Good one poncho.
     
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  14. NiteShift

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    No doubt of that.

    Oh he and his Dem congress can get into all kinds of mischief: Cancel or refuse to fund the border fence, reduce defense spending, cancel missile defense, appoint more judges like Souter & Ginsberg, sign the Kyoto, bring back the Fairness doctrine, he has already voted against permitting law enforcement officers to question individuals about their immigration status. There's just no limit to the possibilities.

     
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