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Obamacare Smashed: House Passes Repeal Bill

StefanM

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Looks like there will be coverage, of a sort, for people with pre-existing conditions. Their premiums will be (largely) paid for by a federal pool of money. This pool of money will come from the general fund.

Hmm... That looks a lot like a government run and paid for health insurance system paid for with everyone's taxes.

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It's a low-rent, underfunded version of Obamacare.
 

InTheLight

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It's a low-rent, underfunded version of Obamacare.
I can see it becoming underfunded. I can also see the unintended consequence that the federal government takes over paying for people with pre-existing conditions and so more and more people show up with pre-existing conditions, which causes the federal government to allocate more tax money to pay for these policies. Pretty soon you're inching toward single payer.

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blessedwife318

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I can see it becoming underfunded. I can also see the unintended consequence that the federal government takes over paying for people with pre-existing conditions and so more and more people show up with pre-existing conditions, which causes the federal government to allocate more tax money to pay for these policies. Pretty soon you're inching toward single payer.

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Especially when you consider the number of people who will drop their insurance without the mandate. If this manages to pass the senate and the mandate is gone I will be doping my worthless insurance. This will just continue the death spiral.
 

FollowTheWay

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I don't know about smashed, I'm just quoting the Breitbart headline. It still needs to get through the Senate. We're still not out of the woods yet, but it's a step in the right direction. I'm all for baby steps as that's how government works. The naysayers will undoubtably complain it's not enough not perfect. They are like the boxer sitting back waiting for the perfect punch while the enemy peppers him will little shots and takes the round. IMO, Republicans needs to start settling for smaller victories. They add up.


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Gage Skidmore

by SEAN MORAN 4 May 2017

Not only have we made good progress, we have to get give a good shout out to Tom MacArthur and the President and the Vice President for their efforts in the last couple of weeks. It would be a mistake to suggest that had Tom MacArthur, the President, and the Vice President have not gotten involved in this process, then we would not have the options now for everyone to consider. Tom has worked closely hard with Energy and Commerce Chairman Greg Walden and the committee to make sure that what we do is keeping in line with repealing and replacing Obamacare and drives down premiums and keeps pre-existing conditions.

The agreement, brokered by the House Freedom Caucus chairman and Tuesday Group co-chairman Tom MacArthur (R-NJ), would allow states to eliminate Obamacare’s community rating system — a rule that prohibits health insurers from pricing health care plans based on age, gender, or health status. States that repeal Obamacare’s community rating rules would have to join a high-risk pool to obtain the waiver.

The deal, known as the MacArthur amendment, would also reinstate Obamacare’s Essential Health Benefits, although states could waive these if they were to prove that eliminating those regulations would lower premiums, increase the number of people insured, or “advance another benefit to the public interest in the state.”

Essential Health Benefits require that health insurance plans must cover certain services such as doctors’ services, inpatient or outpatient hospital care, prescription drugs, pregnancy, childbirth, and mental health.

The American Health Care Act replaces a number of Obamacare’s taxes and subsidies with age-based tax credits to help people buy health insurance on the individual market. Freedom Caucus members, including Congressman Jim Jordan, previously said that the tax credits would create a new entitlement program. The AHCA repeals Obamacare’s employer mandate, while it replaces the individual mandate with a 30 percent insurance premium surcharge for those who forgo health insurance. The bill will also cap Medicaid per capita starting in 2020.

If the bill passes the House, it will most likely see changes in the Senate. Sens. Bob Portman (R-OH) and Shelley Moore Capito (R-WV) remain concerned about a provision in the American Health Care Act that freezes Medicaid expansion. Senator John Thune (R-SD), the third highest-ranking Republican in the Senate, has crafted a measure to better compensate older Americans for the high cost of health insurance.

Congressman Mark Meadows (R-NC) told Breitbart News that he will work with Senate colleagues to push for a more conservative version. “I am having conversations with my colleagues in the Senate,” he explained, “where we can push for even more conservative solutions, because it was more difficult to push amendments procedurally in the House.”

Senators Rand Paul (R-KY), Mike Lee (R-UT), and Ted Cruz (R-TX) were the strongest opponents of the American Health Care Act. Senator Paul crafted his own conservative plan for repealing Obamacare and worked with the Freedom Caucus to push for an even more conservative Obamacare repeal bill. The Freedom Caucus endorsed Sen. Paul’s plan.

Meadows told Breitbart News, “I fully expect that we will repeal most aspects of Obamacare by the end of May. It may have been a deterrent in the first 100 days, but by the end of the first 120 days or so it will be seen as a significant accomplishment. It’s not how you start, it’s how you finish, as the as song used to say. We will have an excellent finish.”
Sorry to dampen your indignation, but they actually are going to keep with the preexisting condition coverage. And in all likelihood, rates will drop. So spare the poor seals.
The funds the republicans provide in this disaster healthcare bill are a drop in the bucket. They don't come close to meeting the need. It's a political ploy.
 
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