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Oil prices tumble again after Goldman slashes outlook

Crabtownboy

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This is going to hit Putin and Russia's economy very hard.

Wall Street gurus see crude falling to $75 a barrel next year before returning to $80 in the medium-term. That’s going to be hard on producer countries who have gotten used to a price of $100 in recent years.

Lower oil prices are also having an impact on Russia, which isn’t an OPEC member but which is just as dependent on high oil prices to balance its budget. Finance Minister Anton Siluanov told parliament last week that budget assumptions for 2016 and 2017 would have to be thoroughly because the original draft had assumed average prices of $100/bbl- a “different economic reality.”

Siluanov has already said that many of the government’s planned increases in defense spending will have to be pushed back if the situation doesn't improve. Next year’s budget is only being spared because the government will draw down some $10 billion in reserves from its rainy-day fund.

http://fortune.com/2014/10/27/oil-prices-tumble-again-after-goldman-slashes-outlook/
 

InTheLight

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When oil was $85-$87 a barrel, gas prices in the Twin Cities went down to $2.89 a gallon. Now that oil is under $80 a barrel gas prices have gone up to $3.29 a gallon. Kind of a mystery.
 

Crabtownboy

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When oil was $85-$87 a barrel, gas prices in the Twin Cities went down to $2.89 a gallon. Now that oil is under $80 a barrel gas prices have gone up to $3.29 a gallon. Kind of a mystery.

Did taxes per gallon go up or is it oil companies going for higher profits, or both?
 

InTheLight

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Did taxes per gallon go up or is it oil companies going for higher profits, or both?

I'm sure it is the oil companies going for higher profits, probably by shutting down production at refineries for "maintenance" or to switch over to winter blended gasoline. This creates an artificial shortage of refined gasoline so prices will rise.
 

Revmitchell

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There is actually a gas and oil boom going on right now. No thanks to Obama but it is all going on, on private lands. This area is benefiting greatly from it. (not that it changes local gas prices) If you can't find a job around here you aren't really looking for one. Hotels are full every week due to oil field workers. There is no way that there is a shortage anywhere in this country right now.
 

church mouse guy

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There is actually a gas and oil boom going on right now. No thanks to Obama but it is all going on, on private lands. This area is benefiting greatly from it. (not that it changes local gas prices) If you can't find a job around here you aren't really looking for one. Hotels are full every week due to oil field workers. There is no way that there is a shortage anywhere in this country right now.

It is about $3.10 here. It would be very cheap if we had a real President who wanted to help people by opening up federal lands to production and building the pipeline down from Canada. The Democrats are cheapskates who want a class system so that they can stay on top.
 

InTheLight

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There is actually a gas and oil boom going on right now. No thanks to Obama but it is all going on, on private lands. This area is benefiting greatly from it. (not that it changes local gas prices) If you can't find a job around here you aren't really looking for one. Hotels are full every week due to oil field workers. There is no way that there is a shortage anywhere in this country right now.

We've got the same thing going on next door in North Dakota. There's an oil rush going on. The Bakken oil fields are producing like crazy. There is kind of a wild west flavor to it.
 

Crabtownboy

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It is about $3.10 here. It would be very cheap if we had a real President who wanted to help people by opening up federal lands to production and building the pipeline down from Canada. The Democrats are cheapskates who want a class system so that they can stay on top.

1. The pipeline is to get oil to the gulf ports for export, not for domestic use.

2. Oil companies do not want the gas to go too low. They want to earn profits.

3. I wonder to what extent the US and Saudi Arabia are contributing to the oil glut in order to harm Putin and the Russian economy. Seems I remember reading that Russia needs $100 a barrel before they turn a profit. So, they are in the red for every barrel they produce below that rate, but it is even worse if they produce nothing. Nasty problem for Putin.
 

church mouse guy

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1. The pipeline is to get oil to the gulf ports for export, not for domestic use.

2. Oil companies do not want the gas to go too low. They want to earn profits.

3. I wonder to what extent the US and Saudi Arabia are contributing to the oil glut in order to harm Putin and the Russian economy. Seems I remember reading that Russia needs $100 a barrel before they turn a profit. So, they are in the red for every barrel they produce below that rate, but it is even worse if they produce nothing. Nasty problem for Putin.

The oil is for our use, not export. That is a Democrat talking point that is not true.

Oil companies make money based upon the cost. They will still make money regardless of what they pay for the raw material. It is like liberals who charge high prices for everything.

If this is an attempt to put pressure on Russia, it is too little too late. But what it really shows is that economic prospects are not good and that is why liberals are so worried about the stock market. OK?
 
$3.199 here in western-WVa/eastern-KY....

As ITL already stated, when oil was $90.00/barrell, it was $3.00 gal. Now that it's less than $90.00 per, we've been paying more per gallon. Greed is gonna tear us down...
 

Revmitchell

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In eastern ky gas prices do seem higher. Maybe because they keep prices clloser to WV? WV has higher taxes on gas I'm thinking...
 

Deacon

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Did taxes per gallon go up or is it oil companies going for higher profits, or both?
The higher oil prices over the last decade made it economically feasible for businesses in the United States to begin extracting the oil in our country.
We have now became one of the worlds big oil producers and so prices have dropped. More oil + less demand = lower prices.

As a consequence, the lower price per barrel limits Russia's ability to field an army, they just don't have the money.

It's the only thing Obama has going for him, sadly I believe it was despite his policies rather than a plan.

The prices at the pump in many states, (particularly Pennsylvania where I live), have remained high because states have increased their taxes on gasoline.

Rob
 
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