Featured Pastor's advice on Calvinism

Words of wisdom. :applause::applause:

 

Evan... I don't envy your situation. When spouses are close theologically, but differ on certain issues conflicting w/ where they go to church... that just sucks. My parents are in a similar boat, more over style than doctrine. I wish there was a silver bullet to fix the problem. But prayer and patience is likely the best solution.

 

By the way folks this is just another example of Calvinists who sneak into churches with the goal of making it a Calvinist church. And it is evil.

 

Agree with Rev, if you where doing this in the church I pastor, I would ask you to leave, politely the first time, not so much the second.

 

You whine about Calvinists almost as much as Winman.

 

Much as it pains me to defend the Arminians, if you feel you have to surreptitiously introduce Reformed theology, at the risk of causing division, you need to leave, for the sake of the harmony of that church and go find another church.

As much as I disagree with Arminian theology, and as big jerks as the ones here are, Arminianism is still well within the bounds of orthodoxy. While you may think you're helping, all you're going to do is introduce division in the church. What's more, by joining the church, you made an agreement to honor, if not agree, with their doctrine. For you to try to go around that is a sin and you need to stop.

 

Evan maybe you and I should write Dear Abbey about our problems. :flower:

 

Why, why, why? This is such misguided thinking. It's a slap in the face to the church, your wife and to overall unity of the church, which Jesus prayed literally prayed for among his followers. When you join a church you agree to certain parameters, if you can't abide by these parameters, then you need to leave.

And yes, Toto, I can ask you to leave. If you choose not to leave willingly, we will initiate removing you from the church membership. That you don't see what you're doing as division and harmful, says something about your maturity as a believer.

 

I'm not trying to add to the word of God at all! I've never heard your particular interpretation of that passage in my life, not even while in Bible college. Not saying you're wrong, but I've always heard that taught as division within the brethren of Christ, not as division of lands. Where did you find that? I'd like to look at it closer to see for myself. Thanks.

Regardless, Evangelist IS causing division in his church and that is wrong.

 

I don't think he actually "joined" as a member in the first place, did he?

 

But THIS pastor of your current church has made himself clear about the situation. You would be wise to follow his instruction or find another church.

 

I agree with your interpretation of Proverbs 6:19, not that my opinion means anything. The NT also says to mark those who cause division in the church.

Rom 16:17 Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.
18 For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple.

Evan may disagree with the doctrine of his church, but they are agreed and he is causing division contrary to their doctrine and should be avoided.

 

John, you are still doing the same thing. Didn't you give your pastor a book by Paul Washer if I am not mistaken?

You need to go to that Reformed church, you will be much happier there, and so will your current church.