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Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by SavedByGrace, Apr 9, 2021.

  1. SavedByGrace

    SavedByGrace Well-Known Member

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    right, so God commans that we do not commit adultery, rape, steal, murder, have abortions, become LGBTQ, etc, etc, because He KNOWS that we really cannot. He then punishes us for doing the very things that He KNOWS that we do, because they are out of our control? So NONE of these can be SINS, nor can any person doing these, be punished for them. If they are, then God is unjust! Which is impossible, and therefore what you are saying is also impossible! Much reformed theology will make you mad!
     
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    Does God know everything? My Bible says yes.

    Did God give the OT Law as instructions He commanded the Hebrews to keep and punished them if they failed? My Bible says yes.

    Did anyone ever keep the OT Law perfectly, so as achieve salvation? My Bible says no.

    Therefore, by a very simple exercise of minimal mental ability, we can conclude that God demanded people keep the OT Law, knowing they would not be able.

    The reason was to point us all to our need of a Savior in Jesus Christ who could fulfill that perfect Law on our behalf.

    That’s what my Bible says and if reformed theology agrees with scripture, which it does, then I thank God for opening my mind to that understanding.

    I’m done now. Thanks for the conversation.

    peace to you
     
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    SavedByGrace Well-Known Member

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    would God place ANY burdens on us humans that He knows that we cannot do? NO. If your reasoning is correct, then there cannot be any SIN in this world, as God has made it impossible for us not to sin, by our weak human natures!
     
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    You see God’s commands as a “burden”, I see them as a reflection of His perfect nature.

    Your reasoning is flawed and without any comprehension of God’s plan for His creation as clearly revealed in His Word which is the Bible I use.

    You have already admitted you don’t know the Bible I use:

    Truer words may never have been posted.

    peace to you
     
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    Ok you've had your say and your reasoning is biblically unsound. See ya
     
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    Next time you see the Queen, tell her I’m sorry for her loss.

    peace to you
     
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    You can sign an online book
     
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    Thanks for sharing. I skipped it because I’d have to agree to English cookies and I’m afraid it would ruin my diet.

    peace to you
     
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    What about all the OT saints? Are you claiming "not a single person" obtained approval by faith?

    Job 39:12
    “Will you have faith in him that he will return your grain
    And gather it from your threshing floor?

    Hab 2:4
    “Behold, as for the proud one,
    His soul is not right within him;
    But the righteous will live by his faith.

    Num 14:11
    The LORD said to Moses, “How long will this people spurn Me? And how long will they not believe in Me, despite all the signs which I have performed in their midst?

    Isa 43:10
    “You are My witnesses,” declares the LORD,
    “And My servant whom I have chosen,
    So that you may know and believe Me
    And understand that I am He.
    Before Me there was no God formed,
    And there will be none after Me.
     
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    That’s not what I said.

    Scripture tells us not one single person was justified by keeping the law, even though all were commanded to keep it.

    Peace to you
     
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    So you did not say God provided the means of salvation under the Old Covenant. You simply suggested God's OT Law did not provide the means of salvation. Got it...

    Psa 78:22
    Because they did not believe in God
    And did not trust in His salvation.
     
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    Now I remember why I don’t respond to you. You are incapable of accurately repeating what I say.

    Thanks for the conversation

    peace to you
     
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    More lets blame God for man's sin kind of post.
     
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    weak caricature,showing no.understanding of the means employed to bring salvation to the sinner
     
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    you are a Calvinist first...
     
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    Here is what the Calvinist claimed:
    "God commanded the Jews to keep the OT Law, knowing not a single person would be able to do it and punishing them for not keeping it."
    And here was my reply:
    What about all the OT saints? Are you claiming "not a single person" obtained approval by faith?
    And the reply? "That is not what I said." Note no answer to the question.
     
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    The answer, “that’s not what I said”.

    We weren’t talking about approval by faith. We were talking about whether God would require something of us that we could not do.

    Had you read my post #22, you would find I stated the reason God did that was to point all of us toward our need for a Savior in Jesus Christ who would fulfill that perfect Law on our behalf.

    When I say, “All of us” I am referring to all the redeemed from the creation to the 2nd coming.

    Hope that clears it up for you

    peace to you
     
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    Reformed theology make God out to be a very unfair Deity. He knowingly makes demands of human beings, knowing that it would be impossible for them to do so! So God gave the Ten Commandments, knowing that they could never be kept, and then when be break them, He punishes us for our inability that is built-in to our DNA! I wonder how many human parents would tell their kids to do, not not do something, knowing that they cannot, and then punish them for failing??? These teachings must be thought up by those who have a screw lose, because it is complete rubbish!
     
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    Says the man who claims the commands of God are a “burden” that He puts upon His creation.

    Says the man who refuses to acknowledge the obvious...

    1. God knows everything
    2. God gave the OT Law and punishes those that don’t keep it perfectly.
    3. Scripture tells us not one single person was ever justified by keeping the OT Law, and therefore under the wrath of God.

    Conclusion:

    God gave the OT Law knowing no one could keep it.

    peace to you
     
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