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"plead the blood"

Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by ntchristian, Jan 5, 2020.

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  1. Particular

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    Again, you avoid the fact we are discussing why there is no denomination that claims authoritative interpretation of all scripture. That is for God alone to decide. Rome can call anyone a heretic and burn them at the stake. That doesn't make them a heretic if God does not consider them such. A Baptist Church could call anyone a heretic and remove them from membership (we don't burn people at the stake) for heresy. That doesn't make them a heretic if God does not consider them such.
    The onus falls upon the denomination to rightly divide the word of God, prove it to be accurate to the masses, who question them by observing the word of God themselves, and the prayerfully submit their opinions to God so that it might be rightly discerned.
    When church at Rome became the puppet of the Roman Empire, it gave up all legitimacy as a leader in the church. The other churches had full right to spurn them. But, Rome resorted to totalitarian dominion. In the Reformation God broke Rome's yoke of oppression on His children.

    Now...I expect you to play a strawman card as you hate looking at the evil of your church. You will do anything to change the subject and run from Rome's unrepentant sin.
     
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    The Reformation was when God brought the truth of the real Gospel back into the Church.
     
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    The main tenets of Word of faith deny the real Gospel, as to them Jesus was not unique Son of God, that He died as a sinner, had to get born again in Hell, that faith is a Force that even God must obey, just heresy from the get go! They also claim that they are getting new revelations from God to support their heresy.
     
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    One who hold to the real Gospel and Person of Jesus Christ!
     
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    Just sticking to the theology of WoF such as a hagin or Copeland, clearly teaching doctrines of demons!
     
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    If that is true, then why aren't all Protestants Lutherans?
     
  7. Particular

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    Because God isn't Lutheran.
     
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    Brilliant...
     
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    What Church didn't have it to begin with?


    If its not broke don't fix it.

    If the FIX came for the ONE TRUE CHURCH....... What is this one true church that needs reforming?
     
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    I would say why are we not all Baptists instead, as the Church in Acts was theology wise!
     
  11. Yeshua1

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    The true Church of Christ is not Rome, or Baptist, but the saved out by God since Adam forward!
     
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    The one true church is non-denominational, which means that Rome is not the true church. There may be people attending a Roman Catholic building for worship, who are truly saved and elect, but the teaching coming from the denomination is very often not biblically sound teaching. It is often in error, which is why God chose to reform it. But, since Rome rejected God, God raised up other denominations that would teach truth.
    Rome was/is broke. God fixed it by removing his blessing from Rome who played the harlot.
     
  13. ntchristian

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    No, that is not true. The teachings of the apostles are the authority. Their teachings are found in the Bible. Sure, some of those teachings may be interpreted differently by different individuals and groups, but the Bible is still the source document of the Christian faith because of who wrote it. Is it better to have and allow for some difference of faith and practice than to have one supreme hierarchy to tell others what is truth and what is not? I say yes. Those who believe as I do gave us the gift of religious freedom. Those who believe as you do gave us centuries of religious persecution and wars. I'll take diversity, difference of opinion, and a little uncertainty over bloodshed and death.
     
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    The Reformation didn't reform as much as is commonly believed. Maybe I'll start a thread on that.
     
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    Well, you see, the problem is, every denomination thinks it is filled with "real NT Christians". That's why I wanted to get your definition.
     
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    I actually agree. Synergism is still predominant. Humans still want to have control.
     
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    It reformed back the true Gospel, as Rome had very nearly manage to kill that off!
     
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    A church must teach the real Gospel to be a true church!
     
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    Six Hour Warning
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