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Polls Show Many Americans are Simply Dumber Than Bush

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by poncho, Feb 3, 2006.

  1. poncho

    poncho Well-Known Member

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    By Paul Craig Roberts

    01/29/06 "ICH" -- -- Two recent polls, a Los Angeles Times/Bloomberg poll and a New York Times/CBS News poll, indicate why Bush is getting away with impeachable offenses. Half of the US population is incapable of acquiring, processing and understanding information.

    Much of the problem is the media itself, which serves as a disinformation agency for the Bush administration. Fox "News" and right-wing talk radio are the worst, but with propagandistic outlets setting the standard for truth and patriotism, all of the media is affected to some degree.

    Despite the media's failure, about half the population has managed to discern that the US invasion of Iraq has not made them safer and that the Bush administration's assault on civil liberties is not a necessary component of the war on terror. The problem, thus, lies with the absence of due diligence on the part of the other half of the population.

    Consider the New York Times/CBS poll. Sixty-four percent of the respondents have concerns about losing civil liberties as a result of anti-terrorism measures put in place by President Bush. Yet, 53
    percent approve of spying without obtaining court warrants "in order to reduce the threat of terrorism."

    Why does any American think that spying without a warrant has any more effect in reducing the threat of terrorism than spying with a warrant? The Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, which Bush is disobeying, requires the executive to obtain from a secret panel of federal judges a warrant for spying on Americans. The purpose of the law is to prevent a president from spying for partisan political reasons. The law permits the president to spy first (for 72 hours) and then come to the court for permission. As the court meets in secret, spying without a warrant is no more effective in reducing the threat of terrorism than spying with a warrant.

    Instead of explaining this basic truth, the media has played along with the Bush administration and formulated the question as a trade-off between civil liberties and protection from terrorists. This formulation is false and nonsensical. Why does the media enable the Bush administration to escape accountability for illegal behavior by putting false and misleading choices before the people?

    The LA Times/Bloomberg poll has equally striking anomalies. Only 43 percent said they approved of Bush's performance as president. But a majority believe Bush's policies have made the US more secure.

    It is extraordinary that anyone would think Americans are safer as a result of Bush invading two Muslim countries and constantly threatening two more with military attack. The invasions and threats have caused a dramatic swing in Muslim sentiment away from the US.
    Prior to Bush's invasion of Iraq, a large majority of Muslims had a favorable opinion of America. Now only about 5 percent do.

    A number of US commanders in Iraq and many Middle East experts have told the American public that the three year-old war in Iraq is serving both to recruit and to train terrorists for al Qaeda, which has grown many times its former size. Moreover, the US military has concluded that al Qaeda has succeeded in having its members elected to the new Iraqi government.

    We have seen similar developments both in Egypt and in Pakistan. In the recent Egyptian elections, the radical Muslim Brotherhood, despite being suppressed by the Egyptian government, won a large number of seats. In Pakistan elements friendly or neutral toward al Qaeda control about half of the government. In Iraq, Bush's invasion has replaced secular Sunnis with Islamist Shia allied with Iran.

    And now with the triumph of Hamas in the Palestinian election, we see the total failure of Bush's Middle Eastern policy. Bush has succeeded in displacing secular moderates from Middle Eastern governments and replacing them with Islamic extremists. It boggles the mind that this disastrous result makes Americans feel safer!

    What does it say for democracy that half of the American population is unable to draw a rational conclusion from unambiguous facts?

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  2. OldRegular

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    But not as dumb as Roberts! :D :D :D :D
     
  3. poncho

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    I think it's more a matter of facts than opinion in this case OR. But, you are entitled to your opinion. ;)
     
  4. Brother James

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    Good post poncho.
     
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    Thank goodness we have Roberts to look out for and think for us. :rolleyes:
     
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    Poles are what Democrats depend on like we depend on God's Word.
     
  7. mcdirector

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    Well, I'm from the south. Based on some of the things I've read, it's amazing we can tie our shoes.

    Or maybe I didn't really read them since our reading skills are in contention too.
     
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    I tie mine backwards. I thought everyone in the South did the same. :confused:

    Maybe Roberts can give me lessons. ;)
     
  9. poncho

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    Tough job but somebody has to do it otherwise people would just do as they've been conditioned to and blindly trust the government and follow orders. After all that's what freedom is all about.
     
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    After all that's what freedom is all about. </font>[/QUOTE]You got that part right, at least. ;)
     
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    Why don't you guys concentrate on winning some elections, instead of calling everyone who doesn't agree with you "dumb".

    Paul C. Roberts is a hate monger.

    "There is no such thing as public opinion. There is only published opinion." Winston Churchill
     
  12. poncho

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    Yeah, great idea. Everybody can concentrate on working harder to elect one of the two globalists running for president. Brilliant!

    Don't be to upset about it. The globalist's man in the White House still has the corner on the market when it comes to mongering fear hate and wars. From which they profit greatly. Their not about to give that up easily as long as they can publish your opinion for you. [​IMG]


    Yep the globalists are busy publishing your opinion today. Better hurry up and find out what it is before it gets cold. ;)
     
  13. Priscilla Ann

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    We already knew that many Americans are dumber than Bush. How do you think he was elected twice?

    :rolleyes:
     
  14. hillclimber

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    Quite the contrary dear.
     
  15. rbell

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    BTW, just a friendly reminder...we should be praying for our leaders...ya know, that's biblical and all...

    So, just take a pause from insulting the President every now and then and ask God to direct him, and place His hand on him...

    (And yes, I made this kind of statement to the "other side" in the 1990's with a different President).

    Just a bit of gasoline for the fire...
     
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    Yeah, that's pretty much how the Bush apologists regard those that dare to question President Bush.
     
  17. poncho

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    It's a fear thing Ken. The number of Bush supporters is dwindling as more and more people realize the truth about our government. It's a nest of corruption through and through and they've been selling us off to "higher powers" for decades.

    The only real defense the government can put up as a smoke screen is the false left right paradigm. Keep the republican faithful castigating the democrats and the democrat faithful castigating the republicans. In that way no one can see the big picture. The whole government is corrupt and full of traitors to the American people and the U.S. constitution.
     
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    It is time for Christians to stand up to the corrupt and rotton power structure in Washington and say NO MORE, ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. Why as Christians do we have to go to the ballot box and choose between two greedy, amoral choices. They give the illision that they are different. They are only different in the type of evil they peddle. WE as Christians are not perfect, but we should have higher standards than greed and piggery. If anyone here wants to associate God with the Republican party, please stand away from me greater than a lightning stike distance.
     
  19. poncho

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    The head of the church (IRS) would never allow it.
     
  20. LadyEagle

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    Okay, other than protection, what should we pray for?

    Salvation? He claims he's a Christian. Even though he says muslims worship the same God as we do and islam is a great religion of peace.

    Wisdom? He has his advisors, Mr. Rove and his Muslim friend, Grover Norquist to advise him. Not to mention the House of Saud.

    Courage? He's shown remarkable courage going against world opinion on a lot of issues. Like going to war in Iraq.

    Compassion? He's promised and we've sent billions of tax dollars all over the planet, even to hostile countries like Palestine. We even funded jihad books for the education system in Afghanistan, I read.

    What exactly should we be praying for? I'm at a loss on what to pray for other than his safety. :confused:

    Of course, it's really hard for me to know how to pray for someone I don't trust. So I pray that God's Will be done.
     
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