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Polygamist "Judge" Barbara Walther's home now "guarded" by police

Discussion in '2008 Archive' started by Brother Shane, Jun 12, 2008.

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  1. tinytim

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    Who called Deborah to be a prophetess?
    Jdg 4:4
    (4)     And Deborah, a prophetess, the wife of Lapidoth, she judged Israel at that time.
     
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    Sorry, Statutory rape...

    Men sleeping with 12-15 yr olds is statutory rape... especially when not LEGALLY married...
     
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    Texas law on statutory rape..
    [FONT=Times, serif]§ 21.11. INDECENCY WITH A CHILD. (a) A person commits an offense if, with a child younger than 17 years and not the person's spouse, whether the child is of the same or opposite sex, the person:

    (1) engages in sexual contact with the child or causes the child to engage in sexual contact; or

    (2) with intent to arouse or gratify the sexual desire of any person:

    (A) exposes the person's anus or any part of the person's genitals, knowing the child is present; or
    (B) causes the child to expose the child's anus or any part of the child's genitals.
    (b) It is an affirmative defense to prosecution under this section that the actor:

    (1) was not more than three years older than the victim and of the opposite sex;

    (2) did not use duress, force, or a threat against the victim at the time of the offense; and

    (3) at the time of the offense:

    (A) was not required under Chapter 62, Code of Criminal Procedure, to register for life as a sex offender; or

    (B) was not a person who under Chapter 62 had a reportable conviction or adjudication for an offense under this section.

    (c) In this section, "sexual contact" means the following acts, if committed with the intent to arouse or gratify the sexual desire of any person:

    (1) any touching by a person, including touching through clothing, of the anus, breast, or any part of the genitals of a child; or

    (2) any touching of any part of the body of a child, including touching through clothing, with the anus, breast, or any part of the genitals of a person.

    (d) An offense under Subsection (a)(1) is a felony of the second degree and an offense under Subsection (a)(2) is a felony of the third degree.[/FONT]

    [FONT=Times, serif]http://www.expertlaw.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13673[/FONT]
     
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  4. Brother Shane

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  5. tinytim

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    learn how to use the quote function properly.. if you have any questions, I am sure we can help you...
     
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    That is why you must dig deeper into the historical aspect...

    Women were not allowed an education.... Therefore, unlearned women should never be allowed to teach...
    Nor should unlearned men, or children...

    I have set under very Godly women teachers that taught me a lot.

    I'll say this.. but I have to be quiet about it... there are some women that know more than I do...
     
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  7. Brother Shane

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    There was no proof that any of this happened. In fact, the state took away the birth certificates and driver's license and declared them "fake" -- therefore there was no way to determine who was who. (remember that media outbreak? another lie.) In such, on May 18th, the state admitted that "Two dozen of the children may actually be adults." Beforehand, statutory rape charges were brought up and they didn't even know the age! I believe AGE has a BIG ROLE in such a charge ... wouldn't you agree?
     
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  8. Brother Shane

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    This is wrong, tinytim. There is no such mentionings in that scripture -- none! To make something up without scriptural reference and take it far enough as to justify the scripture and it's meaning -- it's completely out of line. A woman is to be at home with her (child)ren being a wife and not under another man's headship (Titus 2:5).

    And by the way, I've been on message boards five years and this one three - I know how to use a quote box. Learn to copy and paste and format your own quote box. "Back in the day," lol, we didn't have the luxury of a "quote" button. We had to format our own! Fair enough?!
     
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    Yes... I agree.. age is a big factor...

    But when 50 yr old men have 14 yr olds pregnant... that is wrong.


    It is statutory rape.

    Besides, why are the men not prosecuted for Polygamy...
    Oh, never mind, they only have one legal wife... that's right...

    They just sleep with kids...
     
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  11. tinytim

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    Then, you are intentionally misusing this board, by making a mess of the functions...

    Prove that a woman must stay at home.

    The woman of Prov. 31 (WHICH is the ideal woman) went out and worked, and brought in money to HELP her husband.

    It is none of your business if a husband has no problem with his wife working... it is between the husband and wife... you are not God.
    And you are prooftexting to prove your beliefs.

    You have to look at all the Bible.. not just Pauline epistles...
    There are many women that God used to serve Him...
    And not everyone stayed home...

    Lydia was a seller of purple...
    Deborah was a judge... (the very thing you are condemning)
    Sapphira.. helped teach
    Pheobe was a deaconess
    Philip's daughters were prophetesses

    And those are just a few.

    God uses women as much as he does men...
    And they don't have to stay home to be used by God.

    Listen, I have to run out for a while.. if this is not closed by the time I get back (because of the 3 page limit) I will discuss more later with you.
     
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    You are against old testament polygamy, but not against old testament women judges? First, I'd like to point out that Israel was at a very terrible time and apparently, there was no honourable man to take the position after Ehud died (Judges 4:1). Second, I'd like to point out that God raised her up (Judges 4:4). Thirdly, if you are going to promote women teaching and judging (which is not condoned in the new testament, yet condemned - 1 Timothy 2:12), then I'd take it you will withdraw your conversation against polygamy and go burn incense?!
     
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