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Pope Francis forbids US Bishops action

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  1. church mouse guy

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    US Catholic Bishops are meeting in Baltimore and had intended to discuss and vote on what to do about sodomite clergy and bishops and cardinals who have been abusing teenage boys and seminarians.

    However, Pope Francis told them to stop and close the subject and not to take a vote;

    Welcome to this special report from the bishops' conference in Baltimore where, moments into the meeting, conference President Cdl. Daniel DiNardo dropped the bombshell that Pope Francis has pulled the rug out from under the feet of the U.S. bishops and ordered them to cancel their expected Thursday vote in what to do about the priestly sex abuse crisis, most of which is homosexual predatory abuse.

    DiNardo appeared disturbed by the orders from the Vatican having been given to him at essentially the last minute late last night.

    Following that, Papal Nuncio Christophe Pierre got up and essentially said great strides had been made in fighting this problem and the bishops don't really need to involve the laity to any great degree.

    That's significant because the bishops were going to vote on two proposals — the second one which was going to seek the establishment of a lay board with investigative powers into the actions of bishops.

    Pierre slammed the idea and said it is bishops who run the Church and, in essence, the laity need to pipe down. This action from Rome — again, at the last minute — raises serious questions.

    It is no secret that there in Rome and very close to Pope Francis various high-ranking churchmen who are rushing headlong into advancing the homosexual agenda in the Church.

    Baltimore Special Report
     
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  2. church mouse guy

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    Some are calling Pope Francis a dictator. I think that that is unfair.

    What we are seeing is that any Pope is in total control of whatever happens in the RCC. He has the final word on everything.

    Don't look for Pope Francis to care about what happened in the USA. The only recourse now for victims of abuse is the state and federal courts. It is unlikely that much will happen legally. McCarrick probably never will be brought to trial. If it weren't for bad publicity, McCarrick would still be working in Washington DC or in the Vatican. Vigano will be hunted the rest of his life by Vatican special forces. If he dies while Pope Francis still is in charge, he probably will be denied an RCC funeral.

    The only hope that RCC laity have is to stop giving money. It is doubtful that they will do that in sufficient numbers to make a difference.

    There will be retaliation against the victims and their friends in my personal opinion. Cupich or Tobin will become Cardinal of Washington DC. The RCC ain't ready for reform. Perhaps the majority of the RCC favor the ordination of sodomites and women, the practice of abortion, the practice of euthanasia, sodomite marriage, socialism, open borders, and capitulation to Muslim Jihad. The problem with the RCC is that the average person is just supposed to donate and be quiet. It's that way in a lot of Protestant denominations, too, I imagine.
     
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    The RCC just keeps digging the pit deeper and deeper.

    Now a Bishop Michael Olson from Fort Worth, Texas, has said that Vigano should be rebuked for calling on Pope Francis to resign for violating his own policy of zero tolerance. So it goes. Pope Francis walks along with Cardinal McCarrick who is currently nestled away in rural Kansas instead of some federal prison. The Texas Bishop says that the papacy is not a political office and so therefore Pope Francis cannot be asked to resign. Hmmm. I wonder what that means?

    "I'm not commenting on the veracity of his claims; I repudiate his call for @Pontifex to resign. The Chair of Peter is not a political office."

    So Vigano should be rebuked for telling the truth?

    Masters of the Universe, please note that there is someone with more chutzpah than you yourselves. Silicon Valley Masters of the Universe, you have met your match.

    Bishop Olson also has forbidden the Latin Mass in his diocese and has explained that there may not be anyone in Hell: "It's mentioned in the Scriptures, albeit exclusively in the New Testament, that one need not believe that anybody is necessarily there. That's a different disputed question as well."
     
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    Ah, the Bishops are going to get America straightened out. They are preparing a statement on racism since they just can't say anything about the sexual abuse that they have perpetrated on America with the help of the Cardinals and the Vatican:

    Racism, the text declares, “is above all a moral and theological problem that manifests institutionally and systematically. Only a deep individual conversion of heart, which then multiplies, will compel change and reform in our institutions and society.”

    The letter furthermore insists on the need to “confront racism’s root causes and the injustice it produces.”

    Good thing that they don't have to confront lesser sins such as what they themselves have done to the American people.
     
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    Now the Bishops are also going to straighten out the President of the USA since Pope Francis has forbidden them to do anything about their own actions and those of the Cardinals and the Vatican.

    President Trump’s recent proclamation addressing the mostly Central American migrants marching toward the U.S. border contravenes U.S. laws on immigration, declared a statement posted on the U.S. bishops website Wednesday.

    I imagine that McCarrick and others recruited sodomite seminarians from Latin America using the kindness of the American government not for prostitutes for themselves as one might think but as upholding US laws on immigration, giving them the right to lie and to continue their predations of the American people.
     
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    Well, this shows that the American Bishops are all for getting this stuff out into the open and dealt with. I applaud them and think Francis is making a terrible mistake.
     
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    Sounds like a bit of a heretic to me.
     
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    When Pope Francis ordered the US Bishops in Baltimore this week not to discuss or act on the thousands of cases of predatory abuse within the Roman Catholic Church, he showed to all the world that he is in total charge of the RCC in all respects.

    This bodes ill for the RCC, as will be shown by a class action lawsuit filed in Washington, DC, against the Vatican and the American Catholics.

    First, there was a lawsuit filed in Minnesota. "One suit, launched by six clerical sex abuse victims, was filed in federal district court in Minnesota. It alleges that the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops (USCCB) concealed "the known histories and identities from the public, parishioners and law enforcement of clergy accused of sexually abusing children across the country."

    Secondly, "The same day, a class-action suit was filed in the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia against both the USCCB and the Vatican itself — an unprecedented legal move. It accuses the Church of conspiracy and running a criminal enterprise under federal racketeering statutes....The class-action suit is historic, in that it attempts to hold the Vatican liable in the United States for the actions of its clergy — a first. Up to now, the Vatican has avoided liability by claiming it has no direct authority over clergy. But this assertion was shattered on Monday when the Holy See blocked the USCCB vote in Baltimore. "If that's not command responsibility, I don't know what is," said attorney Mitchell A. Toups, who is helping lead the class-action suit."

    If the class action lawsuit is successful, it will allow the US to seize Vatican properties in the USA, something that President Trump warned Pope Francis in person that he was going to sign an executive order to allow the confiscation of foreign property in the US when it was used in the commission of crimes or when it can be sold to compensate victims of Vatican related crimes in the US.

    US Bishops, Vatican Slapped With Simultaneous Lawsuits
     
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    Simply put, “Follow the money”
     
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    Do you think that Pope Francis should do something about the high rate of aids among RCC clergy worldwide?
     
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