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"Porn Star Turned XXX Church Leader"?

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  1. delizzle

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    Former porn star set to lead XXXchurch as founder focuses on 'Christian Cannabis'

    Does anyone else find this a little disturbing?
     
  2. MartyF

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    What’s disturbing?
     
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    The founder leaving to pursue a ministry of "Christian Cannabis" - "about pot and faith after his own journey of healing" and that saying that God "told him" to, “Give XXXchurch to Brittni and Rich De La Mora to lead." pretty much demonstrates that his incompetence to make such a judgment. As per the X-porn star who turned her life around stepping into the leadership role, who knows, not much is said about her beliefs, but I'd tend to suspect what they know about God is in large part Pentecostal like liberal theology leading a lot of people with itching ears into theological errors.
     
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    Apparently the lady got saved, and the XXXchurch (not a church, really, since it's only online) seems to aim at helping porn addicts, so that's good, since that is a huge problem among Christians. Seems like the article should be much stronger about how bad that stuff is, though. Maybe they are radical against it, but the article doesn't say. If she's preaching/pastoring, I would have a big problem with it, but it's only some online thing.

    I find it far more disturbing that the guy advocates recreational cannabis. He's not just advocating medical THB. That is just wrong. Getting high on weed falls under the Biblical category of drunkenness, condemned over and over. He even says Christians have "freedom" in this area, which ignores the addictive nature of the drug.

    As for his headaches being healed, my wife had migraines for decades, but we found a good chiropractor near by after moving to the USA, and now they are virtually gone--with no drugs.
     
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    Are you speaking out for prohibition of alcohol (drunkenness)? We tried that once before and it increased crime.
     
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    I am pro pot. Many reasons. It can be a life saver for PTSD sufferers who can then go on with their lives.

    In my opinion the only way you can classify it as a gateway drug is when it’s illegal & you have to go through getting it from someone who may want to sell you on other really addictive drugs.

    I don’t view it any differently than I would any other crop that provides sustenance, but that’s just me. Food is a necessity but does you no good if you’re dead or too sick to eat, as in either physical illness or depression.

    Your family needs you, loves you, wants you to be happy, & you need to do the same for them. You need more time to find your way to the light when you are in a dark or painful place. It can be a facilitator for that without turning you into a street urchin. I’d take it over a prescription drug any day.
     
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    Well, I looked into it some more.

    Now, I am for the legalization of all drugs but I do not support the use any drug - including alcohol and tobacco.

    What I found disturbing after looking at his website is that the guy is going to use Christianity to sell Cannabis. He’s using Christianity as a selling tool. Yes, that is disturbing.

    I have fewer problems with a repentant porn star helping to run a church than an unrepentant Augustine or Calvin doing the same.
     
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    No, these guys are supposed to be Christians, right? So I'm speaking of:

    Eze 23:33 Thou shalt be filled with drunkenness and sorrow, with the cup of astonishment and desolation, with the cup of thy sister Samaria.
    Lu 21:34 And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting, and drunkenness, and cares of this life, and [so] that day come upon you unawares.
    Ro 13:13 Let us walk honestly, as in the day; not in rioting and drunkenness, not in chambering and wantonness, not in strife and envying. {honestly: or, decently}
    Ga 5:21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told [you] in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

    And literally dozens of other verses condemning drunkenness, and therefore being "high" on drugs.
     
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    I'm not arguing for drunkenness at all whether it be by alcohol or marijuana. Hower, the New Testament does not say alcohol in moderation is necessary unless we are with someone for whom one drink is a problem, e.g. an alcoholic.
     
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    To clarify, you are saying the New Testament does not prohibit getting drunk. Unless you're with someone that has a problem with alcohol. Is that correct?

    Sent from my Pixel 2 XL
     
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    I am pro-Wheat, and warn about the Tares (weed). Many reasons (scriptural, KJB). There are many who have seen, experienced serious trauma in life, due to war, violence, etc and struggle with those in their minds, generally termed PTSD, and the LIFE SAVIOUR, Jesus Christ, can cause those who suffer such to go on to New Lives, forgetting those things which are past.

    Jesus could have numbed his own mind upon the Cross, but chose not to.
     
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    I really don't know what you are saying here.
     
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    We are not Jesus. We are weak. The wars since WWll, are not the same. The enemy is more than likely not wearing a uniform. Often women & children are involved. We ask a lot of our military with sometimes insane rules of engagement. We haven’t supported returning soldiers who witnessed or had to partake in things beyond the imagination, as in our Vietnam vets who now, after all these years are getting a small bit of thanks for their service after being ostracized on top of the horrors of war that they survived. If one man chooses not to end his life today, & is then allowed the time to make things right, I’m good with that. If pot helped him get there, I’m good with that too.
     
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    I support the solders because they didn't start the wars starting with Vietnam. Actually, I support those who had the guts to fight and those who had the guts to demonstrate against these wars or not fight them.
     
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    Do you understand the statement "alcohol in moderation?" That's what I said. Try to actually read my posts before criticizing them.
     
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    Oh, was I criticizing? I thought I was politely asking for clarification.

    Here is what you wrote:

    "the New Testament does not say alcohol in moderation is necessary"

    So, if moderation is not necessary what are the alternatives? Not abstinence, because I know the NT doesn't say that. In fact there were people getting drunk on communion wine and Paul asked them why they didn't drink at home. (I Cor 11:21-22) So if abstinence is not taught and you say moderation is not necessary, I assumed you meant getting drunk was OK. Is it?
     
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