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Pre Millennial is what is Biblical

Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by 37818, May 29, 2019.

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  1. 37818

    37818 Well-Known Member

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    That is the understanding of Revelation 20:4, ". . . they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. . . ."
     
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    No. It does prove it for me. And your appearent argument and understanding makes no sense to me at all. To start, where do we agree on this?
     
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    But not from the text. Jesus is in Heaven. The text says they reigned with Him.
    No mention of being on earth. Why do you think it takes place on earth?
     
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    I am of the point of view the last day is Christ's second appearing, being the day of the LORD, the first resurrection, rapture, millennium and the Judgment that follows the millennium.
     
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    This is correct if you remove the millennium. The 1000 years are not the kingdom. Satan attacks the kingdom, now happening, when the 1000 years end.
     
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    You are adding to Revelation if you make the millennium a physical kingdom. And ignoring Jesus' description of the kingdom being spiritual only.
     
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    Happened as they preached the gospel to all nations which bound and prevented Satan from deceiving them.
     
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    Can you walk through walls?
     
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    You only blurt your misunderstanding of the true nature of the kingdom.
     
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    Maybe you just have a natural body that has to eat and sleep just like everyone else on planet earth.
     
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    Let's let SCRIPTURE settle this question:

    Rev. 19:15 Now out of His mouth goes a sharp sword, that with it He should strike the nations. And He Himself will rule them with a rod of iron. He Himself treads the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
    19 And I saw the beast, the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against Him who sat on the horse and against His army.


    Rev. 20:7 Now when the thousand years have expired, Satan will be released from his prison 8 and will go out to deceive the nations which are in the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle, whose number is as the sand of the sea. 9 They went up on the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city. And fire came down from God out of heaven and devoured them.

    That should settle any question of whether Jesus will reign ON EARTH for 1K years.

    And, with the above in mind, the following should lay to rest any doubt that the millenium will be real & on earth:
    Rev. 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was committed to them. Then I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their witness to Jesus and for the word of God, who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received his mark on their foreheads or on their hands. And they lived and reigned with Christ for a thousand years.

    There ! Simple, wasn't it? Just BELIEVE GOD'S WORD, and He will answer your questions about it for you. Don't take any MAN'S word for it; read & trues the BIBLE.
     
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    You need a kingdom of sight. One you don't need faith to participate in. But Paul says whatever is not of faith is sin. I on the other hand see the kingdom presently here by faith that only the born again can see.
     
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    But it does not settle itRev 19 describeskingdom enemies on earth.
    Rev20:7 speaks of a time after the 1000years....so you offer verses that do not say Jesus was physically on earth at this time.
    He rules from heaven.
    John sees these beheaded souls in Heaven.
    No mention of Jesus coming to earth.
     
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    This thread is closed.
     
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