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Now that's the Christian attitude. Should Matt report that, or should it suffice for you to have shown your true colors?

 

Nope. Not afraid, but also not a hothead and willing to sling half-veiled threats around. You seem to seek conflict, which is why I responded to your remarks in the thread opener. When you talk of stepping "into the ring" with someone or declaring yourself as not being a "pacifist," you boast of your willingness to settle your differences with physical violence. I don't feel a need to do that, and I do not believe that that sort of posturing is fitting for a professor of the Faith. In any case, it does not make for a good witness.

I will follow your advice in your initial response to me. I won't respond to you further, because I feel that you are getting in the way of you. Those who have made an effort to point out your inconsistencies are not the problem.

 

And you continue to act like a big baby. Is physical violence the way you deal with problems in your life? Maybe you should take some anger management classes?

 

Yes it is. :tonofbricks:

 

I believe the OP concerns Primitive Baptists-----lets stick to it, boys---and let Evander Holyfield be the one to "duke it out" with Mike Tyson!!!

Lets quit all of this Come to Mississippi and get in the ring with me attitudes!!!

 

What are we? 12? Grow up. People here can read and comprehend and it is YOU that have repeatedly used hostility and vitriol against everyone that disagrees with you.

 

Hmm, let's see, this is post #31. The last post to deal directly with the OP was kyredneck's post #9

I'd like to hear more. Would you flesh this out, brother?

 

1) Yes, when and where does the "born from above" experience happen?
2) RE: "saved" - since it is not the "born again" experience, what is it that we are delivered from?

I don't want this for debate fodder, though no doubt it will probably be used as such.

Just curious.

Thanks.
HankD

 

You've asked the questions I was mulling over. I guess what I'm looking for is a definition of terms, and how they differ with our traditional understanding of "saved" and "born again."

 

I'll try to summarize what I was told on some other threads (can't find them now):

PB's believe that the elect are, sometime in their life, born from above and given spiritual life completely separate from hearing or believing in the gospel...many of the elect also come to hear and believe the gospel, but it is not what saves them. In fact some PB's have told me that a person who shows spiritual interest in the bible is showing that they are already regenerated, even if their interest leads them to reject the truth found in the scritpures (example given was a non-christian secular Old Testament professor who studied the bible, but rejected its truth claims).

PB's believe The gospel is not in fact for that purpose. When "being saved" or salvation is linked with belief in the gospel, it refers to the temporal benifits of salvation (living a life by God's word, knowing the truth, etc...) Sometimes "saved" in scriptures refers to this temporal "salvation"...sometimes to ETERNAL salvation, which is accomplished purely by God's regeneration of a passive elect person.

(If I have misrepresened PB's, please correct my errors)

 

Thanks, that's a good start.

 

Thanks 12strings!
Very interesting.

HankD