Prosecution—Biblical Age for the Earth

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10 posts is all it took.

 

And your ability to "think and rationalize".

 

Or as has been recently discovered, the speed of light is not the absolute that Einstien predicted. Tests made in the new particle accellerator have demonstrated faster than light speeds.

If God designed the cosmos so that light appeared when created, it would seem as if light had been streaming for billions of light years before it got to us, but if God just "turned on the lights" it would be here then.

An example of this for us (though obviously our scale is far to short to comprehend the issue) is what happens when we shine a flashlight or laser into the night. Do we see a stream of light advancing as it goes deeper into the darkness or do we see a stream that goes on as far as it goes on? This has been an issue that has given cause for much experimentation over the years. Also, is light a wave or a particle? Appears to be both, yet our current state of physics stipulates that it cannot be both at once.

It appears that is just what happened, "Let there be light..." happened before the creation of the bodies that produced it. So, in essence, theories that depend on measuring the light then interpolating the dates back into time when that light was produced would give the impression of a cosmos more ancient that it may actually be.

 

My assumption is that you are speaking of the "faster than light" neutrinos. If not I apologize.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/11/20/us-science-neutrinos-idUSTRE7AJ0ZX20111120

 

Correct...

 

No, you missed the point I was trying to make.

When preachinjesus referred to "reasonable people", you declared (at least the way I understood you) that reason was not a source of truth.

If reason is not a source of truth, then we cannot have knowledge or understanding of anything.

Since God wants us to love Him with our minds, as well as understand and exercise dominion over the earth, there is obviously a place for reason as a source of truth.

Saying reason is a source of truth doesn't make scripture any less relevant.

 

But it directly addresses the issue that knowledge of God can be gained through observation and analysis of the created order, which is the foundation of science.

 

You are certainly entitled to your opinion.

When I was translating Genesis 1 and 2 from the Hebrew back in seminary, I was trying to make Genesis 1 and 2 reconcile, but I could not. It is my understanding that in Genesis 2, the animals were created between Adam and Eve. Therefore, I changed my viewpoint as to the purpose and meaning of the text.

Many people disagree with me about it and that's okay. I have to go with what I am convinced the text actually says instead of what I want it to say. If one just looks at the English translations, they gloss over the issue (it's an interpretation) and it is easy to get the idea that there isn't a difference, but the Hebrew is not as easy to smooth over.

I agree that scripture is our guiding authority. My understanding of scripture has shaped my understanding of the earth's age. I think it is actually very old instead of just having the appearance of being very old.

 

Then can we assume that all scientists are true believers?

 

Then your understanding of Scripture is deeply flawed!

 

No. Many scientists are believers, but many are not. It all depends on your presuppositions, your willingness to think independently, the evidence you have considered, whether or not you really want to know the truth, and what the Spirit has done and is doing in your life.

 

You are certainly welcome to your opinion. I trust that the Spirit will correct me eventually if I am wrong, but I believe I was lead by the Spirit and the scripture to the understanding I have now.

Please pray that the Spirit will correct me if you truly believe I am in error.

 

As long as man uses these methods he will never have any understanding. It isn't our interpretation that matters but what God Him self reveals to us that counts as truth. Our reasoning is limited God's revealings are not limited.
MB

 

Is God faster than the, "neutrinos"?