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Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by steaver, Jan 29, 2017.

  1. steaver

    steaver Well-Known Member
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    Does anyone remember any protest in 2011 when Obama banned anyone from coming in from Iraq for six months?
     
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  2. steaver

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    Same old left wing looney tactic.....twist the truth, whip up the left into a frenzy, shut down innocent people's lives.
     
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    We're we at war with them at the time?
     
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    And........

    Carter had a ban on Iran and there was no war.......
     
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    Well duh, they were holding Americans as hostages. That's called a war in the making.
     
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    Now you're getting it. The 7 counties being band are a "war in the making"...

    About time we call them as they are. "Islamic Terrorist Nations."
     
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    ....and Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Egypt?
     
  8. Benjamin

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    At least in part I would say the shoe ("Islamic Terrorist Nations.") fits and that it's worth taking into consideration the needs toward being more careful about how freely "we" allow people from those Nations to come here.
     
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    Not exactly the same thing. Obama did not stop everyone and did not extend it to seven countries.
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    From: http://heavy.com/news/2017/01/barac...-trump-jimmy-carter-iran-iranian-immigration/

    A 2013 ABC News article reported, “The State Department stopped processing Iraq refugees for six months in 2011, federal officials told ABC News – even for many who had heroically helped U.S. forces as interpreters and intelligence assets.”

    In contrast, Trump’s executive order stops all Iraqi citizens from temporarily entering the U.S. “on any visa category,” affecting those trying to visit family or come here for work, in addition to live. It also affects more countries.
     
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    Yes, we all know that Obama well short of protecting our country properly. ...and why.
     
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    Us presidents have banned immigrants from select countries several times. When we were not at war with them.

    Chester A. Arthur. Banned Chinese in 1882

    Theodore Roosevelt. 1903, the Anarchist Exclusion Act

    Harry Truman.
    Communists banned in 1950

    Jimmy Carter. Banned Iranians in 1980

    Obama's hold on Muslim immigration in 2011.


    Of course these presidents were not named Trump, so Progressives (and others) don't have a problem with them.
     
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    What about those with Green Cards? Are you saying they haven't been vetted? If not, why did we give them green cards?
     
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    Question for you all, would these countries openly accept tens of thousands of Christians into their country without vetting or at all?
     
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    I think on one hand the green cards have been being abuse and amount to a threat because of that and on the other hand concerning that matter there are "simply" some bugs to be worked out. Also, the Progressives are of course playing it for all it is worth...
     
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    So, whatever do you mean by (and others)? Do you mean right wing constitutional upholders perhaps? I will also call your attention to VP Mike Pence's post on Twitter in 2015...

    Governor Mike Pence Verified account ‏@GovPenceIN

    'Calls to ban Muslims from entering the U.S. are offensive and unconstitutional.'
     
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    I don't believe there is anything unconstitutional about putting a hold on immigration. Is it now required that the US is required to let in any and all who want to come?
     
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    Doesnt matter. Its how we behave that matters. Do they have a large statue in their property that makes the statement ..... Give us your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore?
     
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    Are you sure of that?
     
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    Are you sure of that?
    2nd Q......No
     
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    If it were unconstitutional, the former presidents listed above would be guilty of unconstitutional acts. They were never charged with such a thing, or even criticized as Trump is today.
     
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