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Questions for nondispensationalists

Discussion in '2003 Archive' started by The Harvest, Jan 21, 2003.

  1. The Harvest

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    I stand corrected. However, what about the rest of the questions? I'm not trying to be a jerk about this, holding my nose up high, I just am curious to what people think that believe salvation has always been the same.
     
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  3. Pastor Larry

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    You are right [​IMG]
     
  4. The Harvest

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    Who have you studied under? What do you think about Larkin's Book on Dispensations?
     
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    Wow, what a hateful thread. :( [​IMG]

    So much for friendly discussions. [​IMG]
     
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    I think it is wonderful. Furthermore, Clarence Larkin's own life is one of glorifying the Lord.

    Perhaps we could all learn from his attitude:

    http://www.ministryhelps.com/Catalog/Larkin/LarkinBio.htm

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  7. Ransom

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    The Harvest said:

    By the way, nobody is actually answering the questions in my orignal post.

    If you wanted answers, you shouldn't have poisoned the well by declaring a wide assortment of your readers unsaved.

    Too bad I'm not worthy to wipe the floor with you.

    [ January 21, 2003, 05:07 PM: Message edited by: Ransom ]
     
  8. The Harvest

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    SheEagle

    Why do say this is a hateful thread? I think we have all been pretty nice here. No name calling, no spitting or kicking. Just debating a hot topic. Maybe I didn't pick up on someone's feelings getting hurt (except for the first couple of posts).
     
  9. The Harvest

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    OK if you are too scared of the topic to answer the questions, then respond to this one.

    Prove the TULIP from the Bible. Keeping in mind that you must "Rightly divide the word of truth". 2 Tim 2:15
     
  10. Ransom

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    The Harvest:

    OK if you are too scared of the topic to answer the questions, then respond to this one.

    I am more than happy to discuss hermeneutics or the doctrines of grace with people who are willing to discuss them, and there are several people on the BB who can attest that I am not afraid to express my views.

    But as for you, you had your chance, and you chose to squander it by declaring Calvinists "unsaved" before they even had a chance to get a word in.

    In short: Tough darts.

    [ January 21, 2003, 05:49 PM: Message edited by: Ransom ]
     
  11. The Harvest

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    the last time i heard someone whine this loud, i was reading letters that James White wrote to Peter Ruckman. you sound just like ol' Jimmy. I think you just don't know enough about your religion to explain it to me.
     
  12. rlvaughn

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    The Harvest, in the interest of having a more fruitful discussion, perhaps you should define some terms. First, so we will know who are the non-dispensationalists that should be answering the question, what does "dispensationalist" mean to you? Second, do you mean by "rightly dividing the word of truth" that you will only accept answers that agree with your brand of dispensationalism (Bible divisions)? Thanks.
     
  13. Ransom

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    The Harvest said:

    the last time i heard someone whine this loud, i was reading letters that James White wrote to Peter Ruckman. you sound just like ol' Jimmy.

    Thank you for the compliment.

    I think you just don't know enough about your religion to explain it to me.

    Too bad you blew your chance to find out, eh?
     
  14. The Harvest

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    all right, back on the subject. the people i'm looking for answers from are the people who believe that in the old testament, people "looked forward to the cross" for salvation. these people are the ones that believe salvation has always been the same. they also believe that there was no such place as Abraham's Bosom (aka Paradise) and that OT saints went straight to Heaven.

    A dispensationalist believes that there are divisions in the Bible. The Bible is broken down into different dispensations where God dealt with man differently to teach man about Himself.

    Also, the books, chapters and verses in the different dispensations (other than grace which we are under) do not apply to us doctrinally. However, they do have practical and spiritual applications.
     
  15. The Harvest

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    if you thought that was a compliment, then i don't want to learn about TULIP doctrine from you.

     
  16. rlvaughn

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    What if they think salvation has always been the same (by grace), but do not think OT believers went straight to heaven? Can they answer? What if they believe in dispensations but not the same ones you do? Should they answer? Could you describe what you think the dispensations are? Don't just name them, please use the Bible to show which ones are named in it.
     
  17. I Am Blessed 24

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    maybe i can find some other apostate to explain it to me...eh?</font>[/QUOTE]Harvest; You need an attitude adjustment. You don't want answers...you want an argument. :confused:
    Sue
     
  18. The Harvest

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    No, I do want answers. But I have only gotten one straight answer from someone. Pastor Larry is the only one who answered my actual questions.

    Also, Sue, please see 1 Tim 2:12.

    [ January 21, 2003, 07:06 PM: Message edited by: Jim1999 ]
     
  19. I Am Blessed 24

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    No, I do want answers. But I have only gotten one straight answer from someone. Pastor Larry is the only one who answered my actual questions.

    Everyone else is too thin-skinned to get down to the real issue.

    Also, Sue, please see 1 Tim 2:12.
    </font>[/QUOTE]You have called most of the Christians on this board either unsaved, apostates, uneducated or thin-skinned. No wonder you don't get the answers you want. This is my last post on this thread. It is not edifying. I read your scripture. Fortunately, this forum allows women to speak freely. You have just alienated another sector of Christians. If you don't want to hear women speak I suggest you post in the "Men's Only Forum". I read your scripture, now you read mine. Proverbs 16:18

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    Sue
     
  20. Bible-belted

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    Yes, I guessed that you were a KJVO of the Ruckmanite variety.

    No use then telling you what the Greek underlying "describeth" means. You don't care.

    But let's have a dose of reality here. To say that David describeth does not mean that he was describing something totally foreign to him. As I indicated, he was describing something that he experienced. So says the Word of God in Psalm 32. That makes him one of those whom you say does not exist. And that is using a very literal hermenutic.

    Maybe you care to spiritualise the Word of God and so deny its plain meaning, but I do not. ;)

    [ January 21, 2003, 06:59 PM: Message edited by: Latreia ]
     
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