Radical Muslims for Obama

OK. His faith may not be an issue according to the Constitution, but a presidential candidate's faith should matter to a Christian. I can't believe how naive some of you are.

 

Here are the facts.

Obama's middle name is Hussein
He might have gone to a Muslim school when he was 5 or 6.

All the rest is conjecture, insinuations, and innuendos from sources like the WND and political blogs.

And the people who don't accept this evidence are naive and deceived????


Have at it folks. I think, at the end of the day, your arguments are helping Obama and building defenders for him.

Look at his lack of substance, his voting record, and his stands on issues where he does take a stand. Those are all a person needs to know. It is those things that will keep him out of the White House, not McArthyesque fear mongering.

 

AMEN!
We are christians first.

 

I particularly do not use blogs as sources.

 

Lets carry the BB back in time to the summer of 1960.

"Radical Catholics for Kennedy"

[various dubious tabloid and blog sources snipped, clipped, photoshopped, and pasted]

"How can any Christians be so deceived? It is clear that "President" Kennedy would be more faithful to Rome than the people of America. Washington will be run, not by the people, but by the Vatican. It is well known that Rome will do anything to convert nations to their way of thinking. We cant afford to chance 175 years of American freedom on a Roman puppet."

America under communism
America under Catholicism
America under Islam

Seems like some people thrive under a "State of Fear" (see Michael Crichton's novel of that name)

 

I too have noticed this trend with some moderaters.

 

Can we say "Spanish Inquisition?"

The same type of fear mongered McArthyesque hysteria was rampant in 1960. It is no more useful now than it was then.

Here is a sample

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,869792,00.html

 

I am on topic - the topic is yet another fear mongered attempt to discredit a candidate who needs no help in discrediting himself.

The "on topic" is that this style of campaigning is nothing new. It is a clear case of history repeating itself in 1960 and 2008.

There is as much proof of the OP as there was for the fake Knights of Columbus oath in 1960.

 

That does not make him a Muslim. Going to an Islamic school no more makes one a Muslim then going to a Christian school makes one a Christian. I think part of the problem here may very well be a misunderstanding of what we mean when we say "Obama is not a Muslim". By Muslim we mean someone who practices of the five pillars of Islam, etc. Obama does not do that. Obama attends a semi-Christian "Church". He associates himself with professing Christians. So Obama is not a Muslim and there is no evidence to suggest otherwise. What his parents did to him when he was a child is not the issue here because that does not determine who he is today. In fact, if memory serves me correctly, did not Obama also attend a Catholic school at some point as well?

 

Comparing current events to the Spanish Inquistion. :laugh:
That is one funny analogy, dude!

 

I would like a Christian president but, to be honest, I don't know that we have had a true Christian in the White House in a long time. Sure, we have had presidents who have appealed to Christians and used Christian language, but it has been a while since we have had a true born again Christian in the White House. I don't vote for a candidate because of their faith, I vote for a candidate because of their positions on government (etc). The President is not a pastor, the President is an executive. His faith is not an issue. I would like a Christian President, don't get me wrong, but the chances of a true Christian getting in the White House at this point in history is very slim.

 

You missed the point - it was the scaremongers in 1960 who drug up the past to inspire anti-Catholic fear in the election.

Considering we have no proof that Obama is even a Muslim the connexion is just as plausible.

 

Pre-911 if someone had posted a story about Muslims taking flying lessons the most likely response would have been the same as this.

We now live in a world where bombs are successfuly being set off around the world by those who want world domination and specifically to destroy "The Big Satan". Those who think we should act like we always have are saddly mistaken. The use of the word "fearmongering" suggests that those who ask questions or have concerns do so persoanlly knowing there is no reason to be concerned but like to stir others up ususally for political gain. Whether used for a genral group of people or a specific person it questions the motives of them. In short it ia a vailed personal attack. Most likely it is a disengenuine attempt to shut down questions or conversation. Good luck with that.

I will repeat what I told you already once again. I do not know if he is a moslem. And it is false that any portion of his childhood should be automatically irrelevent. You might like that to be true but it is not. I and others are going to be suspicious of him for several reasons. Most importantly because he is running for President of the United States. That alone makes every little detail of his life questionable. This should be obvious. Now if you do not like that you have the option of declining to participate in any thread related to it. Maybe that might help you with the old blood pressure eh!

 

Now who is judging motives and issuing "veiled personal attacks?"

I am all for open debate - however I think some may be sinking their own ship by detracting from the real reasons not to vote for Senator Obama.

He has a rotten voting record, he has not stood for anything, he is inexperienced - that is enough for me without the scare tactics.

 

A legitimate criticism

This is what I speak of.

 

==Well then, I don't know what to say. The facts are clear, he is not a Muslim. We can say many bad things about Obama, but that he is a Muslim is not one of them.

 

No. We do not know that.