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Rebuilding New Orleans

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by OldRegular, Dec 26, 2005.

  1. OldRegular

    OldRegular Well-Known Member

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    Does the Federal Government have a continuing responsibility to rebuild New Orleans?

    My own opinion is that no Federal tax money should be spent to rebuild anything that is below sea level. New Orleans should be rebuilt by the people who want to live there.
     
  2. KenH

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    There is no constitutional authority for much of what the federal government does. But that doesn't seem to stop the federal government from doing what it desires.

    Therefore, I imagine there will be some federal taxpayer money used to rebuild New Orleans and the surrounding areas.
     
  3. Joseph_Botwinick

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    I agree with OR that it shouldn't be used for that. I also agree with Ken that it will be anyway.

    Joseph Botwinick
     
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    lol. What are you Ken? You must be one of those crazy constitutional party lover? [​IMG] Am I right?

    James
     
  5. KenH

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    I am not affiliated with any political party.

    But I can read the federal constitution, especially Article I, Section 8. [​IMG]

    I do admire the Constitution Party for being pretty much correct across the board in adhering to policy positions in line with the U.S. constitution.
     
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    They may do some lining up with the constitution, but they don't do much lining up with the Bible. :rolleyes:

    James
     
  7. KenH

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    :confused:

    The federal government needs to follow its own constitution. It should not be lawless. It is the responsibility of each of us individually to follow the Bible.
     
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    And when the law is in direct opposition to the Bible (as was the case with slavery, isolationist non-interventionism, and is the case with abortion), political pressure should be applied to change the law.

    Joseph Botwinick
     
  9. KenH

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    Agreed.
     
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    Except that I don't find anything Biblical or unBiblical about an isolationist non-interventionism foreign policy. Personally, I reject isolationism.
     
  12. Joseph_Botwinick

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    I do in the parable of the Good Samaritan which goes along with the idea of loving your neighbor, not turning a blind eye to their suffering and saying, "Oh well. At least it isn't me. Not my problem".

    Joseph Botwinick
     
  13. KenH

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    That is for individuals, not for governments.

    We have had this discussion before and we didn't see eye-to-eye on it then and I have no reason to believe that we will do so now. [​IMG]
     
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    There is to my way of thinking a difference between helping your neighbor and signing binding treaties with them.
     
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    Refreshing. Interesting posts with no rancor.
     
  16. StraightAndNarrow

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    So we should spend our money rebuilding Iraq but not a major city in our own country. We should pull out of the Iraq quagmire NOW and let them fend for themselves. They've got enough oil to pay for their own rebuilding after our relentless bombing of their country.
     
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    That's all fine and dandy, but where does one draw the line? Should the feds then refuse to rebuild cities in tornado alley? Or in earthquake prone areas? Or in drought-prone areas, or in hurricane prone gulf states? That would pretty much eliminate just about all of the US.
     
  18. Baptist in Richmond

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    Excellent point, Joseph, and it is also the basis for which I would support rebuilding New Orleans.

    Regards,
    BiR (back in Richmond)
     
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    That's all fine and dandy, but where does one draw the line? Should the feds then refuse to rebuild cities in tornado alley? Or in earthquake prone areas? Or in drought-prone areas, or in hurricane prone gulf states? That would pretty much eliminate just about all of the US. </font>[/QUOTE]Draw the line where the city is below sea level. All they need do is allow the sea to flood the city. Since water seeks its own level it will be quite clear where the line is. Be sure to pick high tide though.

    Furthermore, it is not the job of the Federal government to rebuild unless Federal buildings are destroyed. Following your logic the feds [as you call them] should just build a house for everyone who doesn't have one.

    I wonder where all the people so concerned about the Constitution are on this question. Too busy bashing Bush for protecting the countr, I guess.
     
  20. KenH

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    Here is what I wrote on page 1, OR:

    There is no constitutional authority for much of what the federal government does. But that doesn't seem to stop the federal government from doing what it desires.

    Therefore, I imagine there will be some federal taxpayer money used to rebuild New Orleans and the surrounding areas.
     
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