Redemption

Take a blank 8 1/2 by 11 sheet of paper. Use a drinking glass and draw a 2 or so inch circle on the right hand side. Inside the circle write "In Christ." On the left hand side write "Not in Christ." Draw a black dot on the left hand side, and label it "not saved." Within the circle draw a dot and label it "Saved."

Now draw an arrow from the "not saved" dot to the "saved" dot and label the arrow "redemption." Got it?

 

Before attempting to understand the biblical meaning of redemption, we need to ask, “redemption from what?” The most consistent picture is that of slaves or captives being set free from bondage after the payment of a price.

The root meaning of the Greek words translated redeemed or redemption is loosening, with some forms of the word being combined with “apo” meaning “out from.” So the idea of the combined word is to be not only providing the price of freedom, but also the transport from captivity to someplace else, e.g. deliverance.

The Greek word transliterated “lutrosin” (G3085) appears three times, Luke 1:68, Luke 2:38 and Hebrews 9:12.

In Luke 1:68 we see the prophecy that God visited us and provided redemption for His people. This usage presents the idea of possible rescue and salvation from a bad situation, Right off the bat we encounter one of the difficulties in understanding "redemption" because many translation present that Christ accomplished redemption, whereas others (correctly in my opinion) present that Christ provided for the redemption of His people. If we co-mingle ransom and redemption, we create a muddle.

Luke 2:38 references people who are “anticipating their redemption in Jerusalem."

In Hebrews 9:12, we see that Christ through His blood procured eternal redemption. This fits the picture of being ransomed by the payment of a redemption-price. Further, this redemption is eternal; it does not have a shelf life.

In Luke 24:21 we find "lytroō" (G3084) which is translated as "redeem." The meaning is to cause the release upon receipt of the ransom. Thus when God transfers a condemned individual from the realm of darkness into the kingdom of His Son, the individual is redeemed. This word also appears in Titus 2:14 and 1 Peter 1:18. Note that Jesus gave Himself up (dying on the cross) to redeem us by providing the redemption-price for our salvation.

Jesus was both the High Priest who slays the sacrifice and then sprinkles the blood on those receiving the benefit of the sacrifice, and the sacrifice, the Lamb of God.

Romans 3:24 says (NASB), “being justified as a gift by His grace through the redemption which is in Christ Jesus.” God’s grace can accomplish many varied things, and so Paul makes it clear that the grace being given is through or by the means of the redemption [deliverance], which is in Christ Jesus. So this verse points to receiving the benefit of Christ’s sacrifice when we are put “in Christ” rather than when He shed His precious blood on the cross. Here the Greek word rendered "redemption" is "apolytrōsis" (G629).

Romans 8:23, here G629 is applied to our bodily redemption at Christ's second coming.

1 Corinthians 1:30 says: "But by His doing you are in Christ Jesus, who became to us wisdom from God, and righteousness and sanctification, and redemption," (G629) Once God has redeemed us by placing us into Christ (our redemption from the domain of darkness, and thus being set apart within Christ (sanctification), we undergo the washing of regeneration and are born anew, which results in our being made the righteousness of God, we are then sealed in Christ with the Holy Spirit who becomes our wisdom from God.

Ephesians 1:7 says (NASB), “In Him we have redemption (G629) through His blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of His grace.” So again, only when “in Him” (within Him) do we have the gift of His redemptive grace, which sets us free from every lawless deed, the forgiveness of our trespasses.

Ephesians 1:14 and 4:30 refer to our redemption (G629) from our corrupt flesh. But as a sidelight when we are placed spiritually into Christ, we received our eternal redemption from the bondage of sin, and we are sealed with the Holy Spirit in Christ as a pledge of our inheritance which is to be raised in glorified bodies, set free from the corruption of the flesh. Thus those within Christ have been past tense spiritually redeemed, and are predestined to be bodily redeemed at Christ's second coming.

Next, Colossians 1:13-14 completely summarizes the biblical concept of redemption from the bondage of sin. “For He rescued us from the domain of darkness, and transferred us to the kingdom of His beloved Son, in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins.

Hebrews 9:15: For this reason He is the mediator of a new covenant, so that, since a death has taken place for the redemption (G629) of the transgressions that were committed under the first covenant, those who have been called may receive the promise of the eternal inheritance. Another word used with more than one intended meaning is "called" which in this verse refers to be transferred spiritually into Christ.

Hebrews 11:35 has our last example: "Women received back their dead by resurrection; and others were tortured, not accepting their release (G629), so that they might obtain a better resurrection; Here G629 should be rendered "redemption" referring to an earthly release from captivity.

In summary four Greek words are translated as redeemed or redemption, but the concept is clear, being relocated from the realm of darkness into Christ spiritually, or out of our (dead or alive) mortal and corrupt body into our glorified body. He paid the price of redemption on the cross, the ransom for all, but only when God puts us spiritually into Christ are we "redeemed."

God Bless

 

Thus when we are spiritually in the body of Christ, we are within His propitiatory shelter which because of His shedding of blood, cleanses us from all (past, present and future) unrighteousness. Thus God's wrath toward us is turned aside when we are placed into Christ, thus redeemed.

What are some of the words or phrases used to refer to this transfer, this redemption?
1) Called - 1 Corinthians 1:9, Galatians 5:13, 1 Peter 2:9
2) Sanctified or Sanctifying or Sanctification (meaning set apart) - John 17:9, Acts 20:32, Acts 26:18, 1 Corinthians 1:2, 1 Corinthians 6:11, Hebrews 2:11, Hebrews 10:10, Hebrews 10:14, 1 Peter 1:2 and 2 Thessalonians 2:13
3) Believes in (eis=into) - John 3:15, John 3:16, John 3:18, John 4:39, John 6:40, Acts 10:43, etc
4) Baptized into - Romans 6:3, 1 Corinthians 12:13, and Galatians 3:27

Also, whenever a believer is referred to as a "saint" they have been set apart (sanctified) into Christ.
Philippians 4:1. Romans 1:7, Romans 8:27, Romans 16:2, 1 Corinthians 1:2, Ephesians 1:1, Ephesians 2:19, Philippians 1:1, Colossians 1:2, Colossians 1:26 and 1 Thessalonians 3:13.

 

False and destructive heresies should be rejected. God is Omnipotent. Full stop.

Note how many times God is referenced as "Almighty? God can overcome any restriction such as being unable (supposedly by Y1) to limit His knowledge according to His will.

Those that deny God is all powerful are presenting unorthodox views, certainly not Baptist views or this forum's views.

 

False and destructive heresies should be rejected. God is Omnipotent. Full stop.

Note how many times God is referenced as "Almighty? God can overcome any restriction such as being unable (supposedly by Y1) to limit His knowledge according to His will.

Those that deny God is all powerful are presenting unorthodox views, certainly not Baptist views or this forum's views.

Think about it, is there a force more powerful than God which can prevent God from doing as He pleases? Of course not. Such a claim is unorthodox, and in my opinion destructive.

 

Yes, and since God did limit His knowledge, that is not against "His very nature and attributes." Pay no attention to the destructive and unorthodox views of false teachers. God is Omnipotent. Full Stop

Note how many times God is referenced as "Almighty? God can overcome any restriction such as being unable (supposedly by Y1) to limit His knowledge according to His will.

Those that deny God is all powerful are presenting unorthodox views, certainly not Baptist views or this forum's views. Here again is my understanding of Y1's destructive claim: Jesus could limit His knowledge by the magic of the incarnation, but this was beyond the power of God the Father.

Think about it, is there a force more powerful than God which can prevent God from doing as He pleases? Of course not. Such a claim is unorthodox, and in my opinion destructive.

 

How could "these limitations" overpower God the Father and God the Holy Spirit? And why did not the Holy Spirit know the time of Christ's return if being "incarnate" provided the power to limit knowledge. Y1 view is bogus six ways from Sunday.

 

2Corinthians 6:18
“And I will be a father to you,
And you shall be sons and daughters to Me,”
Says the Lord Almighty.

Pay no attention to the Calvinists who claim the incarnation provided the power to limit knowledge which could not be overpowered by God Almighty.

In the NASB, God is referred to as being "Almighty" about 58 times, yet Y1 claims the magic power of the incarnation had more power than God. I kid you not...

 

Complete rubbish, yet another falsehood from the fount of falsehoods, the Holy Spirit did not know the time of Christ's return, only the Father.

 

Complete rubbish, since the Holy Spirit had the power to limit His knowledge without being incarnate. Y1 just makes it up and posts it. His unorthodox bogus claims are destructive to the doctrine of Omnipotence.

 

Take a blank 8 1/2 by 11 sheet of paper. Use a drinking glass and draw a 2 or so inch circle on the right hand side. Inside the circle write "In Christ." On the left hand side write "Not in Christ." Draw a black dot on the left hand side, and label it "not saved." Within the circle draw a dot and label it "Saved."

Now draw an arrow from the "not saved" dot to the "saved" dot and label the arrow "redemption." Got it?

 

On and on Y1 posts denial of our basic baptist beliefs such as God is all powerful and able to do all things.

Hebrews 2:8
YOU HAVE PUT ALL THINGS IN SUBJECTION UNDER HIS FEET.”
For in subjecting all things to him, He left nothing that is not subject to him. But now we do not yet see all things subjected to him.