Religious School Grads More Likely to Get Abortions

I agree that some Christians obsess about sexual sins more so than other Biblical transgressions. Here’s a possible reason why.

The Apostle Paul said that we are to “get away from sexual immorality quickly, because all other sins we that commit are outside of our bodies, but sexual sins are sins we commit against our own selves.” I think that he was saying that sexual sins, particular habitual sexual sins, can affect us more that other sins. It’s not that they are worse in God’s eyes, because they are not. But they can have more severe consequences. I didn't say that. Paul did.

Shame is a great deceiver. It has deceived many people to do many things.

But shame can come from a number of places. Yes, it can come from a church, religious school, or set of parents unlovingly screaming the “do’s” and “don’ts” of the Bible over the years.

But not every girl who attends a religious school was browbeaten into feeling shame by the religiosity of an unloving authority. And even if she had been, there was no link between that and her decision to have an abortion. The author of the study said that.

And not every religious school alumnus who had an abortion had it out of shame. The author of the study said that too.

MP, we aren’t talking about ultra-conservative religious views.

You, in your original post, and the author of the study are talking about these girls’ attendance ONLY of a private school, not a belief system. That what your post said and that’s what the author of the study said.

The author of the study herself said that there was no link between religious beliefs and being more likely to get an abortion.

If you want to talk about the negative results of ultra-conservatism, and you are right, there are negative effects, then please start another thread. I'll be on the bandwagon with you.

But....this study did NOT make a link between religion and abortion nor conservatism and abortion. It was about private schools and abortion.

 

Yes, not that it’s methodology was explained at all. Because it wasn’t. What was the hypothesis? What was the control group? How did they prepare for the keeping out experimental bias?

I found two examples of experimental bias just in this short summary.

They were glaring.

How does she know that this is an underestimate? She said it was “likely” an underestimate? What does she base that on? Where is the control group that she compared this experimental group to? If she has no prior data to compare this 25% to, then this is experimental bias. If there is a prior set of data to claim that the 25% is likely an underestimate, then could we see it please? I’m not saying that there is not…..I would just like to see it.

Also, the article state that 1504 unmarried and never-divorced young women ages 26 and under from 125 different schools?

OK…… were all 125 of these schools religious schools? If so, then where is the control group?

The author of the study also state this:

"These schools tend to generate high levels of commitment and strong social ties among their students and families, so abortion rates could be higher due to the potential for increased feelings of shame related to an extramarital birth."

In science, there is no room for “could be, should be, and might be” in stating definitive causalities. Scientists are to report the facts was what was uncovered in the research. Did she conduct a study prior to this study that measured the “shame factor” being taught in these school? As I said earlier to Magnetic Poles, shame can come from a variety of sources.

So, yes, they could be having abortions because of shame. They could also be having abortions because of fear. Or because they don’t give a flying flip about the unborn. Or because they don’t wish to lose their boyfriends. Or because they don’t want to drop out of college. Or because they don’t believe that the unborn is a viable human being. Or because……oh, well. Do you see?

The could be’s are endless.






I just don't think a link can be made between girls having conservative religious beliefs and them being more likely to have abortions.

Well, some here have come to that very conclusion that the article was implying that girls with conservative beliefs are more apt to have abortions.

The author of the study herself said that there was no link between religious beliefs and being more likely to get an abortion.

It only stated that her affiliation with a religious school was a link, not her beliefs.

 

The issue of teen pregnacy and how it can be addressed with positive effects is not the question that was asked in the original post.

If it appears that some have attacked the study it is because the study has been used to claim that conservative or ultraconservative Christian values lead to shame and shame leads to abortion.

The study does not say that ANYWHERE. In fact it says differently.

It says:

It also says this.

If you wish to have a discussion on teen pregnancy and how to address it positively and you appear to do so because you "find it interesting" that that's not what is being discussed, then please start a thread with that very topic announced. :flower:

The study is not under attack in a vaccuum. (Except for it's vague findings and poor reporting). The results of the study are questioned because of the link made by readers to a woman's religious beliefs and her likelihood to get an abortion.