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Resurrection teaching

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  1. freeatlast

    freeatlast New Member

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    Yes if we turn off our brains it is easy, but you need to read what is true.

    Dr. Charles Halff, Director of the Christian Jew Foundation, in writing "The Fallacies of Easter" states;
    Sometimes people ask, 'Didn't the Jews count part of a day as a whole day or part of a night as a whole night?' Let me say this, beloved. Whenever you have the expression 'day and night' mentioned together in the Hebrew Scriptures, it always means a full day and a full night. For instance, if you will turn to Esther 4:16; 5:1; 1 Samuel; 30:12-13, and of course Jonah 1:17, you will find the expression 'three days and three nights.' And in every instance it means full days and full nights - not part of a day and part of a night."
     
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    WOW

    Thank you Jesus for loving me and paying the price for my sin, that I might live forever with you
     
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    Okay FAL, tell when you plan to recognize Easter. Sunday, or on Monday?

    Otherwise, I'm done with this thread. It's in a loop with no end in sight.
     
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  4. freeatlast

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    I am not sure why you asked me between Sunday or Monday, as I am not sure why anyone would celebrate the Lord's resurrection on Monday. I celebrate the Lord's resurrection on Sunday like the rest of the church, but I also do so with the understanding that His resurrection took place before the claim of an early Sunday morning.
    So what I am saying I celebrate the One resurrected, not the day and seek to teach the correct times of events leading up to the correct resurrection day.
     
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    I am not sure myself because I am not sure the day of the ordinal number could be the same if you are speaking of in/on the third day being the same as after three days.

    However it is a great question.
     
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    I am not sure you can find anyone in the present day canon of the word that celebrated the resurrection so in reality that does not matter. Easter ( The feast of the Lords resurrection) progressed from something that stated "ye do show the Lords death til he comes" to what it is presently, not by scripture.
     
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    OK. Hold on now ! This is REALLY complicated. Pay cloase attention. Humor me a pretend that jesus was crucified on Friday and rose on Sunday. I know it's hard, but just play along for a bit.

    Now what was the FIRST day Jesus died? Thursday, no. Saturday, no. Friday. Ding Ding. I know you do not agree but just play along.

    Next step. What was the second day. Satuday. Now you are catching on!

    OK now the big Theological step that I spent years of study and training to understand, spent a small fortune in Educational expenses and nearly flunked out.

    What would be the third day? OK Friday=first, Saturday=second, OHHHH my brain hurts but I'll guess Sunday.

    Now it works backwards the say way.

    OOps I forgot scripture.

     
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    To be perfectly honest I could care less what day he died. Same thing as how many wise men or how old was Jesus when the magi came. Every Easter at least 5 people bring thi8s up and every Christmas the others. All this along with the evils of Easter Eggs and Christmas trees. Beleive what you want, divide the days however you beleive is correct, but know that he rose on the third day like scripture says.
     
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    I see why you nearly flunked. Scripture says three days and three nights and you cannot get that out of your formula.
     
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    if you don't care why are you reading and posting? Those who seek the truth care.
     
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    Take a look at the number of time it says third day and then search on the 3 days and 3 nights. Without doing a search myself the numbers are very slanted. I know one place that Mark says 3 days, jesus reference to 3 days is mentioned along with a statement like 'As johnah was in the belly of the whale'. Since this reference can be somewhat vague and many Scholars feel that Marks staement should be translated as "on the third day" and there are many scriptures that refer to "the third day" and since 'on the third day" and after 3 days can not be the same. I lean towards the "on the tihrd day".
     
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    Actually i graduated first in my class, summa cume somethin or other in Computer Engineering, so I think my logic is fairly sound.
     
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    I'm bored. Sorry for being so brash. I apologize. It was rude of me.

    But after 3 days and "on the third day" can not be equivelent terms. We must choose one or the other
     
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    Dr. Charles Halff, Director of the Christian Jew Foundation, in writing "The Fallacies of Easter" states;
    Sometimes people ask, 'Didn't the Jews count part of a day as a whole day or part of a night as a whole night?' Let me say this, beloved. Whenever you have the expression 'day and night' mentioned together in the Hebrew Scriptures, it always means a full day and a full night. For instance, if you will turn to Esther 4:16; 5:1; 1 Samuel; 30:12-13, and of course Jonah 1:17, you will find the expression 'three days and three nights.' And in every instance it means full days and full nights - not part of a day and part of a night."
     
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    Hello thegospelgeek

    You said..........
    Interesting.

    So I guess if your Church held a Christmas play, and showed the angels & the shepherds & the magi, all coming to Jesus on the same night, you wouldn’t mind?
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    What I see here is simply a disrespect for Scripture.
     
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    Do you work for this guy? You've run this quote four times.
     
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    It seems that some cannot or do not read or have a short memory. The post is no doubt a problem as it throws a rock into the Friday crucifixion, but it is also evidence that needs to be presented over and over as some cannot hear. I can get several other Jewish scholars to confirm this if you like, but they say the same thing.
    Thank you for asking.
     
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    Not that I agree with you (for I do not), but I would be interested to know who these other scholars are that you mention.
     
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