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Featured Rift grows between U.S. and its allies

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by thisnumbersdisconnected, Oct 22, 2013.

  1. thisnumbersdisconnected

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    Saudi Arabia is not a "lone wolf" in this. Jordan, Kuwait, Bahrain, and the U.A.E. all have expressed similar attitudes of displeasure with U.S. foreign policy in the Mideast that is causing them to draw back from close cooperation. Couple that with France, Germany and Israel all upset to varying degrees with the U.S. over the NSA scandal, and revelations that at one point or another this administration has authorized the security agency to spy on our allies, and you have a mix for future disaster that will leave the U.S. without any friends on the world stage.

    Why do I suspect the Great Pretender has wanted this all along?
     
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    Add nsa snooping Mexicos president's email. may have been past pres. don't know, media has reported it both past and present.
     
  3. poncho

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    One time we stand up and say "we ain't gonna be yer attack dog this time" and now they're gonna gang up on us over it? Big deal they can all go fight their own dirty little wars from now on far as I'm concerned.
     
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    The U.S. is quickly becoming an outlaw nation which is unwilling to obey by international law. We've established our empire but how long will it last?
     
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    So they will call their troops home?:laugh:
     
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    Bad thing is the US is not supporting OUR OWN LAWS on the books like illegals flooding our country.
     
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    Deusth Wela (German news on pbs) gave about 1/3 of their program to nsa listening in on European leaders and they are not happy.
     
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    Do you make this stuff up, or do you cut-and-paste from The Socialist Worker?
     
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    I think Obama needs to go on a world wide apology tour. The Great Uniter!!

    LOL
     
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    GW Bush is the President that destroyed our relationships with our former allies. He and Cheney wanted an American Empire unrestrained by allies.
     
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    I am starting to think we have yet another DNC operative on this board.
     
  12. poncho

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    Bill Maher has Al Sharpton, Micheal Moore and Valeri Plame on tonight. You know the democrats are in panic mode when they put that much liberal celebrity in one place to release the talking points.

    These people are disgusting to behold. It's like listening to Nero play the fiddle while the Titanic sinks.
     
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    Now that nonsense I know you cut-and-pasted from The Socialist Worker, otherwise known as the Democratic Party newsletter.
     
  14. poncho

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    No actually this is taken from the neocon's own website. Project For A New American Century. In which they called for "global American hegemony" in 90 pages of black and white text anyone can read for themselves right HERE.

    It's the "neocon" blueprint for global American imperialism that only needed the "right crisis" or what the neocons called a "catastrophic and catalyzing event" to kick start it. 9/11 was just the right crisis they needed and they wasted no time in exploiting it to the fullest.
     
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    I am thinking that American Jews do not care if Iran has the atomic bomb because they are Democrats above all else and it is clear that Obama will not stand in Iran's way to acquiring the atomic bomb. It is amazing how Obama has unified Democrats and an illustration of Obama's greatness.
     
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    The answer to the op is how you define allies of the United States. Countries like Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Egypt, several European countries, and many others, are allies so long as they get something from the United States. That is not an ally. An ally is someone that comes to your aid based on your ideals, not what a nation shells out. IMO, our only true allies are Great Britain, Israel, Australia, New Zealand, Poland, and a few others.

    The Constitution defines allies through treaties ratified by the Senate, in either bilateral or multilateral form. It says nothing about being in a "United Nations" financed by the American people with residence granted by the United States. It also says nothing about allies being defined by giving American tax dollars to nations that hate our way of life and ideals.
     
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    GREAT Post!

    If you add in ALL those that already dislike or hate us, the list is growing by the day!

    And they [the Dems] worried Bush would isolate the US from the world? Obama is isolating us with every lame-brained thing he does.

    Another reason we should take Snowden out, is that he is behind all the paranoia about the US spying on our allies!

    Maybe the US will truly not be around for the end times, like some say [that the US is not mentioned in prophecy]. If things get any worse, we could be wiped off the face of this planet, by those who we called "friends!"

    GREAT POST!
     
  18. poncho

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    So Snowden is a traitor because he revealed that the government is violating the constitution? Wow. And here all this time I thought the govt was supposed to protect and defend the constitution not those who violate it. No wonder the govt feels it can do anything it wants without being held accountable when Americans will look at those who seek to inform us about the crimes the govt is committing against us all as "traitors" and those who commit the criminal acts as guardians of our "freedom".

    How Orwellian is that? Thankfully there are still people in America that believe the massive violations of the constitution aren't acceptable.

    NSA Propaganda Video Among Highest Downvote Percentages in Youtube History

    The very epitome of propaganda, a video put out by the Department of Defense Youtube channel featuring calls by the NSA Director to limit journalism and expand spying has now achieved one of the highest known percentage of downvotes in Youtube history (4500 downvotes, 70 upvotes). Checkout the video below, which likely only achieved its 70 upvotes from government bot programs.

    Thousands gather in Washington for anti-NSA 'Stop Watching Us' rally
     
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    That's true. I believe the best way to stop illegal immigration is to enforce the existing which makes it a federal felony to employ illegal aliens. If thjey can't get jobs they won't come. This also is the correct answer to hypocrites who say they want to stop illegal immigration but then employ them as cheaper labor.
     
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    Do you disagree with this statement or is the only way for you to answer it to resort to name-calling?
     
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