1. Welcome to Baptist Board, a friendly forum to discuss the Baptist Faith in a friendly surrounding.

    Your voice is missing! You will need to register to get access to all the features that our community has to offer.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon and God Bless!

RIP RBG

Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by Wingman68, Sep 18, 2020.

  1. Calminian

    Calminian Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2016
    Messages:
    5,824
    Likes Received:
    795
    Both sides agree, that if there is not an opposition president, they can confirm at any time, and both sides would. Do you really believe a democrat senate would not have confirmed Garland? In a heartbeat.

    The basic rule is, the Senate has the choice to defer during an election year. That's it.

    If dems ran the senate today, they would defer. If they ran the Senate during Obama's last term, they would have confirmed.

    Trump knows this, and will do it if logistically possible.

    TRUMP TO GOP: FILLING SUPREME COURT VACANCY AN OBLIGATION TO VOTERS
     
    • Agree Agree x 2
  2. canadyjd

    canadyjd Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 13, 2005
    Messages:
    5,990
    Likes Received:
    466
    The repubs are making a very good argument that the dems are forcing their hand in this confirmation by promising to challenge the results if POT:S wins. That would have the court at possible 4/4 tie in any ruling which is unacceptable. I hope they stick to that argument.

    peace to you
     
    • Agree Agree x 2
    • Like Like x 1
  3. Calminian

    Calminian Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2016
    Messages:
    5,824
    Likes Received:
    795
    I would just add, there is nothing unfair about it. The Senate has a choice to defer during an election year. They are not mandated to defer, and the democrats would not defer if in this same position. They'd ram it through much faster, in fact.
     
    #43 Calminian, Sep 19, 2020
    Last edited: Sep 19, 2020
    • Agree Agree x 1
  4. Calminian

    Calminian Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2016
    Messages:
    5,824
    Likes Received:
    795
    And Trump knows this. It's actually essential he gets a good justice in there.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  5. Scott Downey

    Scott Downey Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 7, 2019
    Messages:
    1,632
    Likes Received:
    311
    Faith:
    Non Baptist Christian
    There is a strong cold war on between the 2 parties. Pelosi and Trump have not talked for 11 months, ever since she stomped out from the white house meeting. Plenty of bad things the democrats have said about Trump and republicans, enough that republicans know to act quick while they can and get it done. I have read 3 republican senators, Murkowski, Collins, Romney may not go along with a quick confirmation. If it is tied, the decision goes to Pence.
     
    • Useful Useful x 1
  6. Calminian

    Calminian Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2016
    Messages:
    5,824
    Likes Received:
    795
    • Like Like x 2
    • Agree Agree x 2
    • Useful Useful x 1
  7. Salty

    Salty 20,000 Posts Club
    Administrator

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2003
    Messages:
    28,392
    Likes Received:
    1,123
    Faith:
    Baptist
  8. Scott Downey

    Scott Downey Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 7, 2019
    Messages:
    1,632
    Likes Received:
    311
    Faith:
    Non Baptist Christian
    Cruz is right, very important to have a 9 justice supreme court, the dems have already advised to not concede the election, so then the election result is to be determined by the supreme court possibly. What with all the mail in ballots fraud likely to happen, it could be a nightmare. Day after election, Trump could be the winner, then tons of faked mail in ballots show up all marked for Biden, trickling in for weeks. Similar already happened with the hanging chads fiasco in Bush versus Gore election, where supreme court finally ordered all Florida re-counting to be stopped and Bush won.

    the voting systems some people design are ripe for punishment. Totally ridiculous.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  9. Quantrill

    Quantrill Active Member

    Joined:
    Sep 11, 2020
    Messages:
    306
    Likes Received:
    41
    Faith:
    Non Baptist Christian
    Thanks for that information. That sounds great. I hope they, the Republicans, got enough guts to do just that. Ram it through.

    Quantrill
     
  10. Calminian

    Calminian Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2016
    Messages:
    5,824
    Likes Received:
    795
    I do too. I don't mind them being fair, I get nervous about them being nice.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  11. xlsdraw

    xlsdraw Active Member

    Joined:
    Jun 7, 2017
    Messages:
    445
    Likes Received:
    109
    Faith:
    Baptist
    IMO, there isn't a single fundamentalist "Bible Believing" judge on the Supreme Court.

    Adding another: Catholic, Jew, or Episcopalian is just continuation of the same.

    This nation rejected God's council, the Word of God, long ago.
     
    • Winner Winner x 1
  12. Salty

    Salty 20,000 Posts Club
    Administrator

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2003
    Messages:
    28,392
    Likes Received:
    1,123
    Faith:
    Baptist

    Interesting - I;m sure many libs are demanding that Ginsburg be replaced with a female - because they want to see at leas 4 women,
    as they are about 50% of the population. So likewise, should Bible believing Christians, demand that one of their own have a place on the court.
     
  13. Calminian

    Calminian Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2016
    Messages:
    5,824
    Likes Received:
    795
    Identity politics. It's a loser. I never judge someone politically by their religious identity. That's how we got Jimmy Carter.
     
    • Winner Winner x 1
  14. carpro

    carpro Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2004
    Messages:
    25,609
    Likes Received:
    1,123
    Faith:
    Baptist
    As Obama famously told Republicans, "Elections have consequences. I won."

    Back atcha.
     
    • Like Like x 1
    • Agree Agree x 1
  15. church mouse guy

    church mouse guy Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    May 23, 2002
    Messages:
    20,832
    Likes Received:
    1,654
    Faith:
    Baptist
    I would just add that the counting in Florida with the hanging chads and all was done in Miami Broward County, a Democrat stronghold and they could not come up with enough votes to change the statewide totals even if every disputed ballot went for the Democrats. Also, CBS called Florida for Gore before the polls in the panhandle had closed breaking a broadcast custom of not calling a state before all the polls had closed. Dick Cheney thought that another 10,000 votes would have shown up in the panhandle without the CBS false claim.
     
  16. Van

    Van Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2011
    Messages:
    16,099
    Likes Received:
    423
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Romney, Collins, Murkowski

    If Mr. Trump wins, the lame duck Senate could confirm. But would those three still think the new Senate should confirm?

    If Mr. Trump loses, pretty sure the lame duck Senate would be unable to confirm.

    If the outcome is in dispute, and the SCOTUS is 4-4, thuggery may break out.

    Popcorn anyone?
     
  17. Calminian

    Calminian Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2016
    Messages:
    5,824
    Likes Received:
    795
    Even if we lose those you mentioned, we have Pence to break the tie. I wouldn't mind that at all.

    I think Trump is all about warp speed on everything. Lame duck session is too late, IMO, especially with all the litigation that's going to take place after the election. I don't trust Roberts.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  18. Van

    Van Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2011
    Messages:
    16,099
    Likes Received:
    423
    Faith:
    Baptist
    I agree, but note the 4-4 reference, that is acknowledging our Chief Justice might vote with the 3 other liberals. If we could trust him, (5-3) there would be no need of another conservative to handle the possible election dispute.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  19. xlsdraw

    xlsdraw Active Member

    Joined:
    Jun 7, 2017
    Messages:
    445
    Likes Received:
    109
    Faith:
    Baptist
     
  20. Calminian

    Calminian Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2016
    Messages:
    5,824
    Likes Received:
    795
    I think he's a man with good judicial instincts, but hindered by TDS.
     
Loading...