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Chris Rock Announces He's Contracted COVID, Even After Vaccination. So, Why the Vaccine Push?
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Chris Rock Announces He's Contracted COVID, Even After Vaccination. So, Why the Vaccine Push?
By Jennifer Oliver O'Connell | Sep 19, 2021 4:30 PM ET


Comedian Chris Rock announced on Twitter that he has contracted COVID.


Hey guys I just found out I have COVID, trust me you don’t want this. Get vaccinated.

— Chris Rock (@chrisrock) September 19, 2021


What Chris failed to relay in this tweet is that it is a breakthrough case. The CDC describes a “breakthrough” case thusly,

COVID-19 vaccines are effective at preventing infection, serious illness, and death. Most people who get COVID-19 are unvaccinated. However, since vaccines are not 100% effective at preventing infection, some people who are fully vaccinated will still get COVID-19. An infection of a fully vaccinated person is referred to as a “vaccine breakthrough infection.”

According to the Associated Press, Rock claimed back in May that he received the jab, which makes him a breakthrough case.

Rock has previously said he was vaccinated. Appearing on “The Tonight Show” in May, he called himself “Two-shots Rock” before clarifying that he received the one-shot Johnson & Johnson vaccine.

“You know, I skipped the line. I didn’t care. I used my celebrity, Jimmy,” he told host Jimmy Fallon. “I was like, ‘Step aside, Betty White. Step aside, old people. … I did ‘Pootie Tang.’ Let me on the front of the line.'”

May he get better, and recover quickly.

Perhaps in hindsight, Rock should have chosen the two-shot Moderna or Pfizer vaccines, since the J&J shot only showed a 72 percent effectiveness rate; and that was before the Delta variant.


Chris Rock says he has breakthrough COVID case: 'Trust me you don't want this' Chris Rock says he has COVID-19, urges vaccination

— ABC7 Eyewitness News (@ABC7) September 19, 2021


Rock has been all over safety measures since the beginnings of the pandemic. In May 2020, he appeared with disgraced, former NY Governor Andrew Cuomo and actress Rosie Perez to push New Yorkers to mask up, and get tested. Now that there are vaccines, it is no surprise that Rock feels the need to urge people to get vaccinated, even though the vaccination didn’t prevent him from getting COVID.

This doesn’t really speak well to his case. Even less to the case for vaccination.

According to the CDC,

• Vaccine breakthrough infections are expected. COVID-19 vaccines are effective at preventing most infections. However, like other vaccines, they are not 100% effective.
• Fully vaccinated people with a vaccine breakthrough infection are less likely to develop serious illness than those who are unvaccinated and get COVID-19.

But according to a new Yale study, there are those who have been vaccinated, yet are experiencing severe disease, and even death.

In a study of hospitalized patients in the Yale New Haven Health System, researchers identified 969 individuals who tested positive for the SARS-CoV-2 infection during a 14-week period between March and July 2021. Of that group, 54 were fully vaccinated.

“These cases are extremely rare, but they are becoming more frequent as variants emerge and more time passes since patients are vaccinated,” said Hyung Chun, associate professor of medicine (cardiology) at Yale and senior author of the study published Sept. 7 in Lancet Infectious Diseases.


Which seems to explain the reasoning behind the booster shots.

Not sure if this is a way to convince Black New Yorkers to get the jab. Like Chicago, and Los Angeles, this segment of the population is still vaccine hesitant. But do the vaccine pushers not see that some people would prefer to take their chances on a virus that CDC data shows has a 95 percent survival rate in healthy individuals, than a vaccine that is not living up to its original claims, and that are causing sometimes severe side effects?

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[JonC]

The reason the health experts are pushing the vaccine is to help mitigate the virus.

The vaccine, like the flu vaccine, the pneumonia vaccine, the measles vaccine...most of our vaccines, in fact, provide functional immunity- not sterilising immunity (I think the Chickenpox vaccine provides sterilizing immunity).

So just like other vaccines one can still get covid even if they have been vaccinated.

@Revmitchell posted a wonderful example of this with his article of Duke University.

Duke required it's faculty to be vaccinated and their students were 98% vaccinated. Duke tests everybody weekly and the unvaccinated twice a week.

They found 356 who had been vaccinated to be covid positive. But most were asymptomatic with a few having mild cold like symptoms. None were hospitalized.

That is what the vaccine us expected to do. Some will get sick with covid, these are called "breakthrough" cases (none of the vaccines are 100% effective). But statistically, if 356 unvaccinated people had covid many would have fell ill, some would have been hospitalized, and 2 would have died.

So, I guess, the best way to answer your question is to say that while sterilizing immunity is always the goal it is rarely reached. Vaccines typically provide functional immunity, meaning it is still very possible to contract the disease.

 

[Wingman68]

This post by Rock looks identical to about a half dozen other ‘celeb types’ posting the same words. Kinda like code for doing my leftie part. I just deleted a screenshot of them a couple of days ago. Should have saved it. Should have known there’d be more.

Not the same one, just the same MO:

 

[JonC]

It is also not unheard of for someone to get covid twice (they have antibodies and still get sick....hopefully a milder case without hospitalization).

 

[Reynolds]

I am still trying to figure out why we have not responded to China's act of biological warfare.

 

[Andre]

Obviously, the fact that one person got covid after vaccination is not argument against the vaccine. The relevant truth is this: getting vaccinated dramatically reduces the chance of serious illness and death.

 

[Andre]

But according to a new Yale study, there are those who have been vaccinated, yet are experiencing severe disease, and even death.

In a study of hospitalized patients in the Yale New Haven Health System, researchers identified 969 individuals who tested positive for the SARS-CoV-2 infection during a 14-week period between March and July 2021. Of that group, 54 were fully vaccinated.

“These cases are extremely rare, but they are becoming more frequent as variants emerge and more time passes since patients are vaccinated,” said Hyung Chun, associate professor of medicine (cardiology) at Yale and senior author of the study published Sept. 7 in Lancet Infectious Diseases.

Thanks for posting - supports the argument that people should get vaccinated.

 

[Andre]

I am still trying to figure out why we have not responded to China's act of biological warfare.

Umm, do you have credible evidence that this was an "act of biological warfare"?

 

[RipponRedeaux]

Getting vaccinated dramatically increases the possibility of serious injuries and death.

 

[Andre]

Getting vaccinated dramatically increases the possibility of serious injuries and death.

Falsehood.

And here is the difference between "my" side on this and "yours" - we have data to back up our position:

A study published in the New England Journal of Medicine on the effectiveness of Pfizer’s vaccine in the first two months of the vaccination campaign in Israel backed up what had been seen in Pfizer’s own clinical trial. Looking at nearly 600,000 vaccinated people in Israel with another 600,000 matched unvaccinated people, the authors of the study saw that two doses of the vaccine were 92% effective at preventing infection, 87% effective at preventing hospitalization due to COVID-19, and 92% effective at preventing severe disease. (The effectiveness was lower when people had only received a single dose.

You, by contrast, do not - you make statements that cannot be supported by the evidence.