Rudy for President!

Petra, what are the details about that? I notice that comedians like to dress as women but I think that it is heathen.

Here is more of what David Geffen said about Hillary:

"Everybody in politics lies, but they [the Clintons] do it with such ease, it’s troubling,”

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003548043

It looks as if Obama has started slugging with an iron fist. As I keep saying, all of this is because Rudy is leading Hillary in the polls and the Democrats are depressed that they cannot find a winning candidate. Obama is a sure loser, too, in a national race against Rudy because Obama is to the left of almost everyone in the country, not to mention his racist religious doctrine.

Petra, Rudy can win. He has promised to appoint conservative judges. I think that there will be a pro-life plank in the GOP platform and that he will be happy to run on the platform. McCain called Falwell and Robertson in 2000 "agents of intolerance." Now I don't pay much attention to either one of them but I don't call them names either. Nor do I think that either one of them is intolerant. So McCain is out.

As for Romney, I don't know about you, Petra, but I am not going to vote for a member of one of the 19th century cults that says, among other things, that Jesus is the spirit brother of Lucifer. The Mormons are polytheistic in theology and totally cultic. They are so rich and powerful that I have considered starting a thread about their political influence but suffice it to say that they have US Senator Hatch on the Republican side of the aisle, Petra, and US Senate Majority Leader Reid on the Democrat side of the aisle, and now Romney, worth $500,000,000 as a candidate for President and I have no idea what other political powers that they hold right now. What scares me, Petra, is that it is all under the thumb of the President of the Mormon Church.

So I stick with Rudy.

www.JoinRudy2008.com

 

Why is it a compromise of Christian principles to vote for Rudy? Obviously, he is going to have to forget his stance as mayor of New York City on cultural issues to run on the GOP platform nationally. The central question is the response to the war in Iraq. The majority of the GOP back the President and Rudy at this time is the heir apparent because he supports the President and sides with the majority of the GOP.

As for the charge by the Obama pal that the Clintons were good liars, who knew?

As for the issue of Mormons in charge of the federal government, I am glad that we agree that it would be a disaster.

This presidential election will be won by the GOP if they have a candidate with a sober view of foreign policy. Those in the GOP who bash Bush cannot outdo the Democrats on that issue and expect to win. If the majority of Republicans nationwide agree with the President, how can those on either the left or the right expect to win Republican votes by rejecting what will be eight years of support for the President's policies against terrorists? That is the $64.00 question, Petra, and I have enjoyed your posts. And I agree with you that Rudy is not easy to accept were it not for the fact that he loves the USA and is a leader and is very popular nationally.

 

Hey, Poncho! Call me cmg. I am as poor as a church mouse.

Rudy is going to be elected because he is one of the few in the field that wants to fight till victory in the war on terror. He is the best of the bunch of the GOP.

Rudy is for limited government. His first major appointment was from Reagan.

As for his personal life and his past stands on cultural issues, Poncho, he has agreed to nominate judges along the lines of Bush's nominations. The national GOP platform is pro-life and has been for many years and I am sure that Rudy will be happy to stand and to run on the platform built by the GOP majority.

As things stand today and with the GOP always going for the front-runner (unlike the Democrats who like expensive primaries and losing general elections), Rudy will be nominated and elected. That's the way that the GOP works.

The anti-war crowd will have their choice among the Democrats, the Libertarians, and the Constitution Party, just like in 2004. The GOP can win without the anti-war crowd.

As for the lack of a Christian conservative leader, that is hardly the fault of the GOP. It is the fault of Christian conservatives who do not present themselves as candidates and who do not work hard enough to get to the top--and there is room at the top. I think that Christian conservatives are in business to make money just like everyone else and they do not want the thankless life of sacrifice that public service demands. The government is in the hands of God and if Christian conservatives want a victory on social and cultural issues, then they are going to have to do some grassroots work other than soapboxing on the Baptist Board. As a senior citizen, I think that survival of the nation in this worldwide war against Islamofascism overrides all other issues.

And as a senior citizen, I think that abortion can be solved by common people and does not need presidential leadership. Afterall, Reagan himself could not budge the issue and he tried very hard. Gay marriage can be stopped by the common people because even the heathen are disgusted by sodomy. As for gun control, again, the common people can stop the loonies here by insisting that guns are for the protection of the individual from takeover of the government by murderous forces such as happened in Germany, where they had gun control, and from violent criminals, and violence fills our land and every man should be armed to protect his family and his property.

Rudy will be okay if Christian Republicans will insist upon their agenda on cultural issues and endorse Rudy's support for President Bush in the war against Islamofascism.

Where do you stand on that, Pancho? My opinion of the far right is that they want someone else other than themselves or their own unqualified leaders to bring about their cultural agenda and they want to abandon the comprehensive GOP foreign policy that dates from the beginning of World War II. The sticking point then is not the cultural agenda, as the far right suggests, but rather the worldwide GOP foreign policy. Am I not correct?

But the far right will not answer that question because they have an ideology that does not address reality. I think that it suggests a failed theology of some sort because the result will be a destroyed and defeated nation and the enactment of the leftist cultural agenda. Ideology is what has defeated liberalism and put us in this suicidal position in the West. The rightist ideology actually will enact liberalism in the name of purity and hasten the suicide of the West.

 

Well, Grubbs, you always present your party's view, which I covered in the post before yours but you neglected to answer, as I predicted that the far right would neglect to answer. But the main point is that what you really object to is the GOP foreign policy, not the cultural issues. Rudy will run on the GOP platform, which is pro-life, pro-gun ownership, and against same-sex marriage. Rudy is sincere and the GOP can win without you, Grubbs, just as we did in 2004 when you worked and voted for Peroutka. Your party is unable to even elect anyone anywhere so why should we listen to you anymore?

 

Aren't you a Democrat?

Terry, I cannot take you seriously because you are a liberal Democrat to the best of my knowledge and you voted for Clinton and I did not. Rudy's personal issues are in the past; Bill carried his from the past into the White House. However, Terry, you are willing to vote for a party that has a pro-choice platform for many years so whom are you lecturing on morality?

 

Aren't you a Democrat?

OK, Terry, I have quoted you again. You say that I am compromising Christian convictions for political gain. OK, Rudy is going to win so I do gain. However, I do not have to compromise because Rudy is America's Mayor and an American hero. His personal hero is Ronald Reagan. He has already promised to nominate judges along the lines of Bush's nominees. He cannot change the pro-life plank of the party. Nor can he get the GOP to endorse same-sex marriage. Nor will the GOP accept gun control, a Democrat goal. So Rudy will run on a conservative platform and the historic GOP foreign policy and Rudy will be his natural self in favoring tax cuts and limited government. So it is no compromise but a candidate who wants victory against Islamofascism (unlike all the Democrats who want cut and run in Iraq).

But as I told you before, Rudy's marriage problems are behind him. He is a senior citizen like me. Chances are he is not going to want sex with young girls in the oval office whenever the wife is not looking. He is too old already. I know that I myself am too old.

So it is not a compromise of my principles. It is a correction on the party of Rudy's political thinking.

But, Terry, how do you reconcile your Christian principles with a political party like the Democrats who advocate year in and year out in their platform the murder of unborn children by the tens of millions?

 

Rudy is very popular, Petra and anyone else reading this thread. According to the draft Rudy website, Rudy has about 40 percent of the GOP:

The Republican faithful, who put a premium on personal and party loyalty, are not amused. McCain was tied with Giuliani as recently as December, but now, according to a Quinnipiac University poll, McCain is down to 18 percent of primary voters, while Giuliani has surged to 40 percent.

http://www.draftrudygiuliani.com/read_article.php?id=674

Some of the non-Republicans have suggested that Rudy will dump the pro-life platform of the GOP. They have not told us how that will be done because the GOP has had a pro-life platform for decades. Rudy is not running on a New York City agenda but a national agenda. He will have to run on the national platform and as a loyal Republican Rudy will support the national platform. The GOP is not going to pick up Democrat ideas such as same-sex marriage and gun control in spite of the charges of the non-Republicans such as the Libertarian and the Constitution Parties and the advocates of GOP candidates who have less than 1 percent of the GOP such as Ron Paul.

The real issue is foreign policy not domestic policy. Rudy's enemies could care less about domestic policy no matter how much they mention it because they know what the GOP platform will be on those issues. And Rudy's foreign policy is more or less the same as the Bush foreign policy. Even Powell said recently that the President was correct to fight in Iraq.

Those of you who want the GOP foreign policy overthrown in favor of the Democrat foreign policy will either have to vote Democrat or vote third party once again. World War II put the American people in world leadership and there is no going back now because our foreign enemies are now high tech just like us. We could not allow Japan, Germany, and Italy to control Europe, Africa, and Asia, and we cannot allow Islam to attack all non-muslims in another effort to pick up where the nazis left off. And I have left out the threat of China, which can now shoot down our satellites in space.