And has been predicting it for years, though now he finally has an audience.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123051100709638419.html
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123051100709638419.html
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Russian Professor Predicts End of U.S. in 2010
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Does this mean I can go out and buy what ever I want and not have to pay it back. Dang is that not just the luck we get our first black President and all he will get is 1 year. If the USA fails it will be a racial thing we did not want to work with the president so we let it happen. But on the good side we don't have to bail anybody else out. Look at all the money we will save.
So it looks like Russia doesn't think Obama will succeed.
I thought the honeymoon would be a short one, but he's not even in office yet.
I thought the honeymoon would be a short one, but he's not even in office yet.
Bro. Curtis said:
You need to read more. This fellow has been saying this for ten years. Has nothing to do with Obama.
Obama changed everything. Along with leveling the seas, he was going to bring America back on top.
I guess Russia doesn't believe him.
I guess Russia doesn't believe him.
Martin Luther
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Spinach said:
Christians need to prepare, our economy is disintegrating. This is no time to put our heads in the sand and HOPE things get better, they will not. We can use this as an opportunity to spread the gospel.
windcatcher
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A Jewish friend of mine once told me how he was taught to regard 'prophecy': He said, any prophet that predicts troubles..... disregard, because it is nothing to predict troubles; as long as the earth and its history continues troubles and disasters, natural and manmade, will always come to past and sooner or later every such prophecy will come to past......this is no proof that a prophet is real: But the one who predicts prosperity, or peace, or some other good thing........ beware and cautious about accepting or acting upon his predictions: If it comes to past, then he was a prophet: But if it doesn't, then he is the imposter.
I could not help but laugh....... but what he told me holds some insight as to the difficulties he has ( and so may others who are Jewish) regarding the Messiah who was to be a servant and a king, a lamb of redemption and the high priest who brings the sacrifice and sprinkles his blood upon the alter to redeem us all. The destruction of Jerusalem was, to him, no sign worthy of note........ but the return of the tribes to Israel and the occupation of the land by the nation restored..... to him this has significance although he does not view that Israel and its tribes have all returned, nor does he view current Israel as being established by the will of God..... which is essential to his belief system.... and not by the agenda or plan of man....which is his view.
Sorry, I didn't mean to go off topic.
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I do believe that there could be some truth to the peril we face in the near future, but whether he is correct regarding his predictions or the divisions which he projects, is highly questionable.
The economy has already gone south in my estimation, but we are not yet aware of how significant this is: We are currently being sustained by our hopes and our improvosations which are a temporary crutch holding us up.
Just what the response of our people will be when those who are depending on their entitlements either find the funds are drying up or don't go as far as expected; those who are still working hard to make their own living get tired of paying taxes to support those who are disabled or retired, and working two or more jobs just to try to get ahead (provided they can find the work); and those who figure they are paying taxes for promised security which wont be there for them by the time they have need. Add to this the hardship which we may face if the ease of our food supply and variety to which we've become accustom should dry up and we find ourselves limited to local provisions or rationed for imported or transported produce and products. Or if the economy and our ability to afford comforts like utilities, energy, shelter and transportation becomes strained. Who knows what maddness may drive some to do when our highly mobile, can't stay at home 2 days straight society or shop til you drop mentality...... will drive some people to do.
Just who knows?
Hardship is a good conditioner for those who have made the right adjustments and practiced the right disciplines in their prosperous times to prepare.... but for those who have never had to adjust nor have been exposed and acquainted with the coping of those which have been through difficult times...... it may be more than their sanity or humanity will bear.
What is scarier than what the people may do, is what our government is already preparing to do. While one can understand having contingency planning..... still such is based upon a degree of expectation and probability and study of behavior. When our government has contracted out for the building of internment camps, and is training both domestic and foreign military for control and peace keeping within our own borders...... then it seems our government is being driven by a fear of its own people which I do not see that we desserve.... and bad and drastic decisions are often made in times of chaos and fear!
I could not help but laugh....... but what he told me holds some insight as to the difficulties he has ( and so may others who are Jewish) regarding the Messiah who was to be a servant and a king, a lamb of redemption and the high priest who brings the sacrifice and sprinkles his blood upon the alter to redeem us all. The destruction of Jerusalem was, to him, no sign worthy of note........ but the return of the tribes to Israel and the occupation of the land by the nation restored..... to him this has significance although he does not view that Israel and its tribes have all returned, nor does he view current Israel as being established by the will of God..... which is essential to his belief system.... and not by the agenda or plan of man....which is his view.
Sorry, I didn't mean to go off topic.
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I do believe that there could be some truth to the peril we face in the near future, but whether he is correct regarding his predictions or the divisions which he projects, is highly questionable.
The economy has already gone south in my estimation, but we are not yet aware of how significant this is: We are currently being sustained by our hopes and our improvosations which are a temporary crutch holding us up.
Just what the response of our people will be when those who are depending on their entitlements either find the funds are drying up or don't go as far as expected; those who are still working hard to make their own living get tired of paying taxes to support those who are disabled or retired, and working two or more jobs just to try to get ahead (provided they can find the work); and those who figure they are paying taxes for promised security which wont be there for them by the time they have need. Add to this the hardship which we may face if the ease of our food supply and variety to which we've become accustom should dry up and we find ourselves limited to local provisions or rationed for imported or transported produce and products. Or if the economy and our ability to afford comforts like utilities, energy, shelter and transportation becomes strained. Who knows what maddness may drive some to do when our highly mobile, can't stay at home 2 days straight society or shop til you drop mentality...... will drive some people to do.
Just who knows?
Hardship is a good conditioner for those who have made the right adjustments and practiced the right disciplines in their prosperous times to prepare.... but for those who have never had to adjust nor have been exposed and acquainted with the coping of those which have been through difficult times...... it may be more than their sanity or humanity will bear.
What is scarier than what the people may do, is what our government is already preparing to do. While one can understand having contingency planning..... still such is based upon a degree of expectation and probability and study of behavior. When our government has contracted out for the building of internment camps, and is training both domestic and foreign military for control and peace keeping within our own borders...... then it seems our government is being driven by a fear of its own people which I do not see that we desserve.... and bad and drastic decisions are often made in times of chaos and fear!
if you look at how he divvies up the States, you'd see he doesn't know the US psyche worth beans. In another place where this is being discussed, the question of what he was smoking was raised.
The splitting up of the US is one matter. :tear: To posit Texas being taken over by Mexico, New england by the EU, and California by the PRC is quite another.:laugh:
The splitting up of the US is one matter. :tear: To posit Texas being taken over by Mexico, New england by the EU, and California by the PRC is quite another.:laugh:
saturneptune
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Six months from now the way things are now will be a faded memory. It might be time to stop worrying about the latest cell phone or video game and wonder where your source of food would come from without grocery stores, and similar situations.
For some of us, we have been all through this with the Fall of the market in 1929, when ordinary people threw themselves from high towers because they had no hope. Others pushed on, and then came war,,more disaster. We had 15 years of disaster in the world, We survived and prospered. Sure times are going to be tough. We might have to give up those extra motorcars, playtoys, cottages, 14 pair of shoes in the closet and 14 credit cards maxed out. Like the chap n the telly the other night. He spent 1,000 dollars for a little dog,,,,on his credit card.........and couldn't afford the ten dollar bill the veterinary wanted for the basic needles a pup should have.
Greed and self-contempt for life is catching up, and we must pay the fiddler.
When the times get tough, the tough get going. You will all have to learn about the British stiff upper lip we developed during the war years.
Cheers,
Jim
Greed and self-contempt for life is catching up, and we must pay the fiddler.
When the times get tough, the tough get going. You will all have to learn about the British stiff upper lip we developed during the war years.
Cheers,
Jim
I thought that was the water.....:saint:
But you are correct. In WWII, just about every was country involved, every citizen being either witness to numerous bombings, or knowing several victims personally. The continent went through extremely hard times Americans know nothing of. That's why we whine when our happy meal is slow coming.....
But you are correct. In WWII, just about every was country involved, every citizen being either witness to numerous bombings, or knowing several victims personally. The continent went through extremely hard times Americans know nothing of. That's why we whine when our happy meal is slow coming.....
Jim, I have been doing exactly this all week. I've had the stomach flu and have been unable to do much besides sit at the computer. So, I've been researching depression era recipes and wartime recipes, and the holocoust. I am amazed at the way people survived on practically nothing, at least by modern standards, especially in England. British rations for a week are what we Americans would eat in a day. Amazing!Jim1999 said:
If any of you Brits have some good websites I could look at with this type of info, please pm it to me. I want to learn all I can from the past.
Folks, contrary to this Russian professor's opinion the sky is not falling to the point he predicts. We're in for some tough times but not as tough as he predicts.
Another of his problems is he seems to think of states of the United States as equalling the republics of the old Soviet Union at best or more likely the equal of the autonomous oblasts.
One of the boasts Californians make about our State is "if California were an independent country, we'd have the fifth largest economy in the world." I dare say New Hampshire out ranks alot of countries.
Another of his problems is he seems to think of states of the United States as equalling the republics of the old Soviet Union at best or more likely the equal of the autonomous oblasts.
One of the boasts Californians make about our State is "if California were an independent country, we'd have the fifth largest economy in the world." I dare say New Hampshire out ranks alot of countries.
I don't put much stock into this Russian professor's opinions, but I do think it's important for us to be aware of what is going on around us, and to ponder it and act wisely. I think for too long we Americans have believed "it won't happen to us" because the US is a superpower.Squire Robertsson said:
Squire Robertsson said:
Chinese control of the Western US is laughable. I haven't seen such an insane idea since I last played Risk.
Also, Canadian domination? Hah! Canada isn't exactly an imperialistic nation. If things go south down south, then Canada would likely just let it happen.
The US may deteriorate, but it will not divide.
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