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Discussion in 'Calvinism & Arminianism Debate' started by KenH, Oct 8, 2021.

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  1. KenH

    KenH Well-Known Member

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    “The spirit of liberty, gospel freedom, sweet peace in the conscience, pardon and redemption is all in Christ, my friends. And if we are blessed with these spiritual blessings in the Lord Jesus Christ, we are safe and secure to all eternity. The soul that has a saving interest in Christ, the great Redeemer, is as sure of heaven as if he were there already. It is not as some freewillers wickedly tell their hearers: "There are thousands in hell for whom Christ shed his blood." O no, this can never be the case; for the Father has declared of the Son, "He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied." He could never be satisfied if the purchase of his blood, the ransom of his life, were to be lifting up their eyes in hell.” - John Kershaw, from a sermon delivered in 1848 at Zoar Chapel
     
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    Christ is already there in Heaven sitting at the right hand of the Father I underlined your misception.
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    1. The "he" in the part you underlined is "The soul that has a saving interest in Christ."

    2. Even if there was a misconception, it would not be my misconception as I didn't write what was quoted in the OP.
     
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    Thank you @KenH for the post.
    Despite what MB has stated, I didn't have any trouble with it, myself:

    " The spirit of liberty, gospel freedom, sweet peace in the conscience, pardon and redemption is all in Christ, my friends. And if we are blessed with these spiritual blessings in the Lord Jesus Christ, we are safe and secure to all eternity. The soul that has a saving interest in Christ, the great Redeemer, is as sure of heaven as if he were there already. It is not as some freewillers wickedly tell their hearers: "There are thousands in hell for whom Christ shed his blood." O no, this can never be the case; for the Father has declared of the Son, "He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied." He could never be satisfied if the purchase of his blood, the ransom of his life, were to be lifting up their eyes in hell.” - John Kershaw, from a sermon delivered in 1848 at Zoar Chapel.

    Here I clearly see that the soul that has a "saving interest" ( true hope in the God of the Bible and His precious Son's work on behalf of His elect ) in Christ, is as sure of Heaven as if he ( that soul ) were there already...

    With Christ.:)

    To me it's almost like reading Charles Spurgeon or George Mueller...
    not hard to follow, and very much an encouragement.
     
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