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Salvational Security

Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by Hope of Glory, Oct 20, 2006.

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  1. Always secure, no matter what.

    85.7%
  2. Secure, as long as the individual produces good fruit.

    4.8%
  3. Probably secure, unless the individual commits some terrible sin.

    4.8%
  4. Not secure. It must be "maintained".

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  5. I don't know/Other

    4.8%
  1. Hope of Glory

    Hope of Glory New Member

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    Sorry about that. I was in the middle of posting the poll, my browser shut down, but the initial post showed up anyway. So, let's try it again.
     
  2. James_Newman

    James_Newman New Member

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    We sing this song at church, it goes like this.

    What can wash away my sins?
    Nothing but the blood of Jesus!

    I know that this is true, I can show it from the bible.

    Hebrews 9
    22 And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission.
    28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.

    Colossians 1:14
    14 In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:

    Revelation 1:5
    5 And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,

    Now the only question I have is 'what can wash away the blood'? If the blood is the basis of my salvation, apart from my works, how can my works nullify the blood?
     
  3. DeafPosttrib

    DeafPosttrib New Member

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    I voted for stay securied long as person keep carry fruit. I am the only one person to voted it so far. I am sure BobRyan will voted it also.

    James,

    1 John 1:9 tells us, IF we confess our sins, then Christ is faithful to forgive and cleanse all sins. That mean, we ought to confess our sins to Christ all times. Or, if we hold our currently sins long as we continue sin without confess, then Christ would NOT forgive our currently sins.

    Calvary is for to wash all people's sins of past, present, and future. He said, it is finished. No limited of our sins, as what we already commited in our lifetime, Christ already forgived all our sins at once. At our salvation, when after we ask Christ to fogive our sins, he took all our past sins away, and forget them. But, afterward, if we continue sinning without confess, then Christ would not forgive our currently sins. Unless tillv we must confess our sins to Christ, then He is ready to forgive our sins.

    Clearly, throughout Bible teaching us that our salvation is conditional depend on our faith, faithful, endure and carry fruit.

    In Christ
    Rev. 22:20 -Amen!
     
  4. Helen

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    If my salvation, either to accomplish or to keep, were dependant on me, I would be lost. It's as simple as that. Philippians 1:6 says He is faithful to finish the good work He has started. I have bet my life on that, to coin a phrase...

    Those who do not think their salvation is for real for all time necessarily have to spend their time focused on themselves (Is there something I need to confess? Am I doing OK? Is there something I should be doing? I, I, I, .....). That is not where our focus should be.

    When we know we are securely in Christ's hands, we can focus on Him and not on ourselves.
     
  5. Ed Edwards

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    John 3:16 (KJV1611 Edition):
    For God so loued ye world, that he gaue his
    only begotten Sonne: that whosoeuer beleeueth in him,
    should not perish, but haue euerlasting life.

    The very defention of EVERLASTING LIFE precludes
    anything other than Security Salvation.
    Life that ends with unrepentant sin is NOT
    everlasting life
     
  6. LeBuick

    LeBuick New Member

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    I chose always saved also as it is not man who saves himself, he is saved by the Saviour. Being lost after salvation would be a limitation in the Saviours ability to maintain those he has saved.

    A preacher once took where Paul says we are dead to sin and used it to illustrate that we die from the old man at the point of being born a new creature. We are no longer a sinner, capable of being lost.
     
  7. genesis 12-15

    genesis 12-15 New Member

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    OSAS. I will not question or deny the efficacy of what Christ did at the Cross.
     
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