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Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Alive in Christ, Sep 4, 2008.

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  1. ajg1959

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    If there is a job open that a person can get hired for, and they refuse to even apply for that job, then that person is unemployed by choice, and should be denied benefits.

    AJ
     
  2. JerryL

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    Yes, AJ you are entitled as long as the job offered isn't as much as the unemployment benifits. You also don't have to take a job away from your home area.

    Sir, I want no apology from you.
    I work my butt off and sometimes travel 6 hours one way to different jobs, and stay away from them for 2 weeks at a time, I know what I do for my family.

    BTW, you didn't come from another closed down board that I used to frequent did you? You sound deathly familar.
     
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    I don't think it is necessary to assume lazy. Your anecdotal example is not the norm.

    More anecdotal examples. If I appealed to the same My experience would be just the opposite.

    You think? Well it is quite an assumption. I have only filed for unemployment once. And I went back to work before my benefits ended. But I am not willing to assume that "most" are lazy. Nobody should.

    On this you are wrong. If you talk with those in the unemployment office they require that you search for a job. During this process they assist you in fnding one that is within your skill set, experience, and pay range. They do not require that you apply for any old job. Doing such hurts families.
     
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    I agree with you on 95% of your posts and your stances, but on this I respectfully disagree.

    The same people that complain about the economy are the very ones taking a check for producing nothing, that is what is hurting families, and the economy.

    AJ
     
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    While you may oppose unemployment for that reason it is not necessary to assign lazy motives on people who accept unemployment benefits. It just is not true.

    If someone makes 60,000.00 a year then two jobs at 8.00 does not equal their unemployment benefits at 2/3 rds. Doing so helps folks like you feel better but it doesnt pay the mortgage. And 9 times out fo 10 employers are not going to hire you if you are up front about your temp status with them.
     
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    Lets see, if unemployment was 15- 20 % durng the depression and the 'papers' are claiming they are at an all time high now, then you and the 'papers' are wrong. heres some facts from the Breau of Labor Stastics, dated 8/1/08
    Unemployment is currently at 5.7%, obviously not the highest in history.
    http://www.bls.gov/cps/

    edited to add the link
     
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    I've seen help wanted signs everywhere here. No one should have to take government money as long as McDonald's is hiring.
    That beats all, this anti government constant complain person takes that same government's money, thats laughable. Theres plenty of work available, unless one does not want to lower ones self to the level of common peoples.
     
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    My son as the knack of finding a job within hours, the very same day.
    Maybe not a 'knack' more like a blessing from God.
    Fact is, if a person wants to work, they can find something, and it doesn't take weeks. If my uneducated husband can find a job in a few days, with no back up money to support the family, anyone with education can.
    Flip burgers, push carts at the grocery store or Wal Mart, street cleaning, bad groceries. There are jobs if people want them, have seen this myself. Here there's lots of farm jobs, people aren't hiring as many migrants as they were a few years ago. Which by the way are not cheaper to hire, there are finical standards for hiring hispanic migrants. Many people claim they get hired because they get paid less, not true. So farm work is a option for anyne unemployed.
     
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    That is not true either. I was unemployed from August 1993 to January 1994 when I lived in VA. Note the dates. Those years were under the Clinton Administration. We had an extention of benefits at that time. Likewise, I lost my job in the recession of 1991. I quickly found other employment. However, my brother who also lost his job from the same company and same day as I did, was out of work for a long long time and he received a 13 week extension on his unemployment benefits during that time. It is always good to check your facts before you post in error.
     
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    Seems JerryL's facts are constantly wrong and made up.
     
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    I don't about the laws in your state. However, everywhere I have lived (VA, GA, NC) no unemployment insurance is deducted from the payroll of employees. You are correct that it is insurance. However, it is insurance that the state forces the employer to carry on his employees at the employer's expence. I used to think that same thing you just expressed until I said something to that effect at the unemployment office and they quickly set me right.
     
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    You do remember reading where I corrected it to late 80's early 90's right? I remember the extention that carried over into 91. I remember the Regan years very well as far as work is related also.
     
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    That is a funny statement. Have you ever gotten a job from a poor man?
     
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    If you check you will find out that unemployment was the same it is today in December 2003.
     
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    You do remember reading where I corrected it to late 80's early 90's right? I remember the extention that carried over into 91. I remember the Regan years very well as far as work is related. Vote how you want, I won't be duped into the Republicans politics anymore.
     
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    What are you talking about C4K? Jobs and the economy is in a terrible shape. Could it have been a spike?
     
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    Your comment that unemployment is higher than it has ever been, and then saying the 80s. I am not talking about extensions, but your claim that unemployment rate is the highest ever.
     
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    The facts make it obvious that the claim unemployment is higher then ever is not true at all.
     
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    Live in your dream world Donna. Talk to all the people that are losing their jobs to other countrys right now.
     
  20. Bible-boy

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    Sorry,

    I joined the thread late and was reading through from front to back and replying as I went along.

    I find it funny that you mention the 80's under Regan. However, you fail to address the fact the he came into office on the heels of Jimmy Carter and the terrible economy of the late 1970s. Regan's tax cuts and reforms turned all that around. It took time to work out but his administration is the one the turned the US economy around. You say you will not be duped into Republican politics anymore. Okay, but you a willing to be duped into Democrat politics and socialism? Funny.
     
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