Featured Satan and 1/3 od angels falling from heaven ?

Greetings Amy

the term fall from heaven does not mean falling from the sky or even god's abode literally--other terms such as being cast down to the earth is the same as that.

Isaiah 14-12--How art thou fallen from heaven,O Lucifer,son of the morning how art thou cut down to the ground,which did weaken the nations.

this is talking about the king of babylon(Nebuchadnezzar)How God used him in doing his will over the nations in his time--He lifted up with pride began to give the glory to himself instead of God--and in so doing he fell from heaven(fell from his glory God had given him before the nations and people) and was cut down to the ground--he was made a wild beast by God and did as they done--until God made him in his right mind again and he started giving the Glory to the God of Heaven again !!!

So falling from heaven or cast down from heaven or cast down to hell or cast down to the earthis signifing the glory and honor of the one being cast down or falling being done away with either for a time or for the age.

Lightning is thus signifing that in an instant all was lost that had been gained.

other old testament scriptures has the same language as these if you look them up.

Rulers of the darkness of this world--The High Priest and those under him were the rulers of that day and they were the spiritual wickedness in high places--they had the rule and reign over the nation in that day and they were the ones killing the prophets,saints,persecuting the church and even killing Christ himself and they were suppose to be the chosen ones of God who kept his commandments--they sit in high places but were full of religion and wickedness--hope this answers your questions

 

It does not say Satan went into heaven where God's abode is in Job--it states that when the sons of god presented themselves before the Lord that Satan came among the sons of gods to present himself also to the Lord.

It would be the same as us going to the meeting place(church) and presenting ourselves unto the Lord there and an enemy comes in also to present himself in the church.

But we know that they didnt have a so called church,but surely had a gathering place they gathered to worship and praise their God at--and the enemy came among them at that place trying to cause trouble.

but it DOES NOT say they went into heaven

 

where is there scriptual evidence that angels could sin at one time but not at a latter time??

Angels never had the ability to sin--God did not make them with the ability to sin like he did mankind--so theres no scriptual support for what you said.

flesh and blood has the capabilty of sinning but not the spiritual bodies that are NOT flesh and blood--No where in scripture do you find an angel sinning cause they cant do so nor is it in the bible

 

I read your article and completly disagree--you did not use 1 scripture that states the existance of a fallen angel named Satan--you speculated that thats what the scriptures were meaning--but in all honesty they could also mean that it was Adversaries (men) who was opposed in that day--actually you even stated that those who reject Satan as a fallen angel reject the Word of God.---

How can you say such a thing when the word of God does not even say that an angel fell from heaven and was named Satan--you cant find it anywhere in scriptures--all you have are speculations on what the word is meaning without scriptural evidence.

I never knew people were so in love with this so called fallen angel named Satan which the bible never says anything about the event happening in the first place--it would assume to me if people were so chained in tradition they dont even know they are worshipping demons and idols and not the TRUE GOD.---it has always been mankind that has been wicked--cant blame it on some angel anymore

 

Hello again amy

If there was such an event as importatant as a Main angel sinning and falling from heaven with 1/3 of angels dont you or anyone else think that the event would be recorded in the bible for us???

But no where in the bible do you find angels sinning and falling from heaven--its just not there---Pls show me scriptural evidence that this event actually happened--i am being called a heretic wrongfully because all people have done is speculate without scriptural evidence of that event even happening.

PLS folks give scripture to back up the sinning of angels and falling from heaven and i will admit im wrong when you present True evidence from the bible of that occuring

 

that was a quote from the book of Enoch about 100 angels called Watchers.

Book of enoch was not put in our bible--Jude made a reference to this same account also--you must notice the word IF before the passage is to denote that if that event really happened then.......

Book of Enoch has Contradictions in it with the Bible and the people of the apostles day it was well known that Book of Enoch was popular among them--so both Peter and Jude were not saying that actually happened but IF it did then the same result would be as so with them also.

If you say that what Peter and Jude said is true about angels then that opens up a whole other can of worms completly different than what were talking about

Also the word High also means High place(Jerusalem was set on a HIGH Ridge among 3 hills)and the High Priest and those under him were the Rulers(Spiritual wickedness in High Places)

 

Greetings DHK

Well i have a question for you friend

Was the book of Revelation things that were gonna shortly come to pass or things that had already happened??

 

If you say some things already happened why on earth would God tell John to write them down if they were already known about???

Now the first chapter says that Book of Revelation was given to John to shew unto God's servants THINGS which MUST SHORTLY COME TO PASS.

Now whether you believe it happened in ad 70(as i do believe) or if you dont--you would still have to hold the Futurist concept that it hasnt happened yet and in that case it is still yet TO COME.

So here again NO scripture evidence of a angel sinning and falling from heaven.

if you still think that it is just that -your gonna have to say so called Satan wasnt cast out till ad 70 or he hasnt been cast out up until this present time.

So consider these things friend and think about them

 

tell me why the Book of Enoch was not put in our bible if those things were held to be true ?

and if you still believe that really happened--explain how spiritual bodies can come down and have relation with a flesh and blood woman and bring forth children ?

Book of Enoch is full of contradictions against what the bible teaches--so be careful on that one

 

i do respect you and your stand

But i do disagree on some things.

you said Satan was cast out first week of creation?? where in scripture does it say he was cast out in the first week of creation--dont you think God would have told adam and eve that such a one and his demons was able to get to them and they exsisted? and God would have warned adam and eve against him--but we dont have any of the like of that--If thats the case God told john about it thousands of years later and DID NOT warn adam and eve about it?? really doesnt sound very logical to keep adam and eve in the dark about it does it not ?