Scientists: Climate-Change 'Time Bomb' About to Go Off

[ReformedBaptist]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,430623,00.html

HAHAHA!

<edited to change title of thread from objectionable slang LE>

 

[Revmitchell]

Can't wait for it not to happen

 

[ReformedBaptist]

Ahh...the title was funny. lol

 

[Ed Edwards]

About 250 Million Years ago the average temp of the earth was about 22-degrees-C, The end of the Permian Age was when what is now Siberia let loose of it's underground frozen Methane.

Today the average year-long temp of the earth is about 12-degrees-C. Global warming caused by mankind might warm that up a degree or two by 1020. The frozen in area around the North Pole is protected from heat by the ice that forms each year on the surface of the Arctic Ocean. The underwater, underground methane beds stays frozen as long as the surface of the Arctic Ocean is frozen part of the year. If the underwater, underground methane beds unfreeze in anywhere from a 100 years to 10 million years - it will cause runaway Global Warming. Man just might give the self-correcting Earth a nudge off the scale.

When the Permian Age ended some 250 years ago, Some 96% of all species expired. That includes even some good veggie species so loosing variant meat sources for humans isn't all we will miss out upon.

 

[Revmitchell]

To bad the earth is only about 6-10 thousand years old.

 

[ReformedBaptist]

HAHAHAHA... that evolution stuff is hilarious.

 

[SBCPreacher]

Was it these same people some 30 or so years ago telling us that a new Ice Age was coming??

 

[Revmitchell]

Was it these same people some 30 or so years ago telling us that a new Ice Age was coming??

Don't you know that "Climate Change" can go either way. And the warming of the earth isn't debunked as a result of any cooling spots on the earth. So long as one or more areas are warming we are all going to die! :laugh:

 

[tinytim]

I though maybe someone heard a cow pass gas!

 

[bobbyd]

Was it these same people some 30 or so years ago telling us that a new Ice Age was coming??

I remember when i started school in the mid 70's and seeing that in the Weekly Reader or something like that we had to read at school.

 

[Gold Dragon]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,430623,00.html

Fox News: Scientists: Climate-Change 'Time Bomb' About to Go Off
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Methane is a potent greenhouse gas, trapping 20 times as much heat as carbon dioxide. While there's little of it in the atmosphere, there are gigantic frozen deposits of it, called methane clathrates, trapped in rocks in seabeds all over the world.

Thanks for bringing this to our attention that there is another potential source of greenhouse gases.

Normally the frozen methane dissolves into the ocean as it melts so the effect would be slow, but the Russian research ship has found it bubbling into the air which is cause for concern.

 

[Ed Edwards]

To bad the earth is only about 6-10 thousand years old.

Actually it is a much more serious problem if the Earth is only aged 6K-years. That means that the release of Methane at the end of the Permian Fortnight (2 weeks) happened rapidly, almost explosivly. The extra temperature (some 1 or 2-degrees-C over all the Earth AND the extra Methane) was measured in South China (40-physical Earth degrees away from Siberia at the time), the Cache Creek formation (now in the mountains of West Canda but then much nearer the spead line in the Pacific Ocean), and the Permian Formation in what is now Western Texas). The Permian Formation is an oil bearing and methane gas (AKA: Natural Gas) bearning formation which has made West Texas from Lubbock to Midland/Odessa a rich area. The joke there is:

Q: "Did your Water Well come in?"
A: "Darnit no! Another Oil well again."

 

[Ed Edwards]

Was it these same people some 30 or so years ago telling us that a new Ice Age was coming??[/quote

No. That would be different people. The guy who was preaching 'new Ice Age' back in 1976 has passed on. I have been interested in pollution for as long as I have been a Christian. (they called the counter to pollution in 1954 'Conservation' - I was studying in a rural area in the 6th grade at the time) I was studying Global Warming 30 years ago also. I was also studying Nuclear Winter also. In fact, humans could kill off 11/12th of the people on earth with a good nuclear winter AND mitigate the effects of human Global Warming. I think I'd rather be concerned about all that carnage instead of worrying about being told if or not I can have another baby &/or I might have to register my gun or loose other civil rights that I never really had anyway.

But others can be free to vary their concerns.

 

[Gold Dragon]

And the warming of the earth isn't debunked as a result of any cooling spots on the earth

The mathematical concept of an average or mean does not seem to be something you grasp. Or the difference between global and local temperatures.

 

[Revmitchell]

The mathematical concept of an average or mean does not seem to be something you grasp. Or the difference between global and local temperatures.

The fact that the earth has warmed and cooled over its life time is something that is ignored by those who intentionally spread this myth. Thinking people are not going to just swallow this political agenda of the UN. Global warming is about power and money and nothing more.

 

[Gold Dragon]

The fact that the earth has warmed and cooled over its life time is something that is ignored by those who intentionally spread this myth.

It is not ignored by me. The average global temperature has definitely warmed and cooled over history. It is currently warming.

 

[Revmitchell]

It is not ignored by me. The average global temperature has definitely warmed and cooled over history. It is currently warming.

Not everyone agrees:

"The salient facts are these. First, the accepted global average temperature statistics used by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change show that no ground-based warming has occurred since 1998. Oddly, this eight-year-long temperature stasis has occurred despite an increase over the same period of 15 parts per million (or 4 per cent) in atmospheric C02.

Second, lower atmosphere satellite-based temperature measurements, if corrected for non-greenhouse influences such as El Nino events and large volcanic eruptions, show little if any global warming since 1979, a period over which atmospheric C02 has increased by 55 ppm (17 per cent)."

http://www.ourcivilisation.com/aginatur/hotair.htm

 

[Gold Dragon]

Not everyone agrees:

"The salient facts are these. First, the accepted global average temperature statistics used by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change show that no ground-based warming has occurred since 1998. Oddly, this eight-year-long temperature stasis has occurred despite an increase over the same period of 15 parts per million (or 4 per cent) in atmospheric C02.

Second, lower atmosphere satellite-based temperature measurements, if corrected for non-greenhouse influences such as El Nino events and large volcanic eruptions, show little if any global warming since 1979, a period over which atmospheric C02 has increased by 55 ppm (17 per cent)."

http://www.ourcivilisation.com/aginatur/hotair.htm

I'm not interested in opinions. Anyone can have looney opinions. Show me data. The writer of the article did not back up any of his statements with evidence like where he got his data from. Come back when you find some of those.

 

[Revmitchell]

I'm not interested in opinions. Anyone can have looney opinions. Show me data. The writer of the article did not back up any of his statements with evidence like where he got his data from. Come back when you find some of those.

Come back? Where am I going? Am I to stay way? You come back when you find a source for your claims.

 

[Revmitchell]

The mathematical concept of an average or mean does not seem to be something you grasp. Or the difference between global and local temperatures.

You might want to refer to some other source that is not questioned by its own source.

Problem with this is global warming alarmists continually refer to local temps and events to support their false claims of an over all warming. Can't have it both ways.