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Secularism Continues To Invade Our Schools

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texasgal

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A teacher twice prevented a child from giving candy-canes out with a note attached as to the history of candy-canes during a Christmas party. Of all the times to learn about the Christian history of something, I would think Christmas would be the most germane time! I remember hearing about this almost 10 years ago (I live in Plano and it was all over the news back then) and now I come to find out that it is still in the courts system! It reminds me of a little girl who had a pencil taken away from her in Plano because it said "Jesus" on it. I mean, how far is this going to go?

The newest argument that the secularists are capitalizing on is "students don't have First Amendment Rights protections." I would think that the in this case the government is infringing on the rights of the student who wishes to pass out a note proclaiming the truth. Christmas is not secular.

Read about the case here: http://www.afterschooling.org/headl...-case-doesn’t-apply-to-after-school-programs/

What do yall think? Should this second appeal be denied or should it be okay for kids to pass out religious notes during school?
 
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hillclimber1

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I fully believe that Christians must not subject their children to public schools.. That system is very evil, broken and cannot be repaired.. OK fire away..
 
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billwald

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Public schools are a waste of the children's time. When our twins were going to start 7th grade we didn't like the school so we home taught for a year. The kids did school work for maybe an hour a day. We took them to interesting places and made them write papers.

The next year we moved and asked them what they wanted to do. Both chose "real" school. They were tested and placed in an advanced 8th grade class.
 
Scarlett O.

Scarlett O.

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texasgal said:
A teacher twice prevented a child from giving candy-canes out with a note attached as to the history of candy-canes during a Christmas party. Of all the times to learn about the Christian history of something, I would think Christmas would be the most germane time!
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Well, something is certainly invading our schools if this cock-a-mammy story about the "origns of the candy cane" is going to be passed around.

This is one of the biggest urban legends in all of Christianity's Christmas season, if you ask me.

Why would you WANT a child to pass this lie around to his classmates? It's horse hockey! How could the candy cane have been invented by a candy-maker in Indiana when the candy cane has been around longer than there has BEEN an Indiana? It's just more Christian urban legends.

As a public school supporter, who also supports homeschooling, private schools, and Christian schools when they are [a] warranted, desired, AND [c] run by competent people, I would allow the child to pass the candy out, but only if we read the story attached together and I explained that it was a nice story, but a false one. I would explain that the basis of the birth of Jesus was true.
 
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exscentric

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Were the public schools "invaded" or were they abandoned to be run primarily by lost people? Not that Christians home schooling is necessarily wrong but wasn't the Christian influence leaving the system part of the normal course of things rather than some sinister invasion of the liberals?
 
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mandym

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texasgal said:
A teacher twice prevented a child from giving candy-canes out with a note attached as to the history of candy-canes during a Christmas party. Of all the times to learn about the Christian history of something, I would think Christmas would be the most germane time! I remember hearing about this almost 10 years ago (I live in Plano and it was all over the news back then) and now I come to find out that it is still in the courts system! It reminds me of a little girl who had a pencil taken away from her in Plano because it said "Jesus" on it. I mean, how far is this going to go?

The newest argument that the secularists are capitalizing on is "students don't have First Amendment Rights protections." I would think that the in this case the government is infringing on the rights of the student who wishes to pass out a note proclaiming the truth. Christmas is not secular.

Read about the case here: http://www.afterschooling.org/headl...-case-doesn’t-apply-to-after-school-programs/

What do yall think? Should this second appeal be denied or should it be okay for kids to pass out religious notes during school?
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The school will lose this in the end. There is far to much presidence and then there is that pesky thing called the constitution that allows for it.
 
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Gina B

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Scarlett O. said:
Well, something is certainly invading our schools if this cock-a-mammy story about the "origns of the candy cane" is going to be passed around.

This is one of the biggest urban legends in all of Christianity's Christmas season, if you ask me.

Why would you WANT a child to pass this lie around to his classmates? It's horse hockey! How could the candy cane have been invented by a candy-maker in Indiana when the candy cane has been around longer than there has BEEN an Indiana? It's just more Christian urban legends.

As a public school supporter, who also supports homeschooling, private schools, and Christian schools when they are [a] warranted, desired, AND [c] run by competent people, I would allow the child to pass the candy out, but only if we read the story attached together and I explained that it was a nice story, but a false one. I would explain that the basis of the birth of Jesus was true.
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I'm ROFLOL. Thanks! Always makes me shake my head when people get their socks bunched between their toes for the sake of Christianity when what they want to be spread isn't true anyhow but you said it with ten times more class than I was about to unleash...
 
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JohnDeereFan

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texasgal said:
A teacher twice prevented a child from giving candy-canes out with a note attached as to the history of candy-canes during a Christmas party. Of all the times to learn about the Christian history of something, I would think Christmas would be the most germane time! I remember hearing about this almost 10 years ago (I live in Plano and it was all over the news back then) and now I come to find out that it is still in the courts system! It reminds me of a little girl who had a pencil taken away from her in Plano because it said "Jesus" on it. I mean, how far is this going to go?

The newest argument that the secularists are capitalizing on is "students don't have First Amendment Rights protections." I would think that the in this case the government is infringing on the rights of the student who wishes to pass out a note proclaiming the truth. Christmas is not secular.

Read about the case here: http://www.afterschooling.org/headl...-case-doesn’t-apply-to-after-school-programs/

What do yall think? Should this second appeal be denied or should it be okay for kids to pass out religious notes during school?
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Yet another reason we homeschool.
 
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JohnDeereFan

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mandym said:
Sometimes it is just easier to withdraw from the world rather than stand strong and be a witness.
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It has nothing to do with withdrawing from the world. Our children are still very much in the world and are very much still witnesses.

The problem is that we have to balance their being a witness with our command to raise them in the nurture of the Lord. You have to remember that the Platonic idea of turning our children over to the state to raise for us is a relatively recent idea in Western culture and isn't found anywhere in scripture.

I don't believe that sacrificing our childrens' education for the sake of their being a witness is a Biblical idea. Nor do I believe that the idea of sending our children into a paganistic culture to defend a faith they're still learning, is Biblical.

If you want to mock us, then I guess that's up to you and certainly isn't unexpected here on BaptistBoard, but the fact is, our children are a light and a witness for Christ, even if they don't do it where you believe they should.

Their playmates need Christ, too. The children in 4-H need Christ, too. the children in their little league need Christ, too. The people they help when they volunteer at the missions we run need Christ, too. The people they come in contact with who they would never have an opportunity to meet if we turned them over to government indoctrination centers need Christ, too.
 
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