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Discussion in 'Bible Versions & Translations' started by 37818, Nov 25, 2020.

  1. SavedByGrace

    SavedByGrace Well-Known Member

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    You think you know it all because you translated a Japanese Bible. What a joke!

    I won't be wasting my time responding to you as I have better things to do
     
  2. John of Japan

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    Well, tell you what. The funeral is over. I'll try one last time to make you understand "generic" usage. If you don't get it this time I'll have to conclude that (how can I put it gently?) you are content with your misunderstanding. :Biggrin

    For a word to be used in a generic sense means that it is non-specific. That is, it is not referring to anything specific. You think ἀνηρ is somehow referring to women in a generic usage. But generic usage means that it is not referring to either male or female, but "person" in a non-specific way.

    If you don't believe me (you obviously think I am incompetent in Greek linguistics), let's try a linguistic dictionary. "generic (Expression, etc.) referring to an entire class of individuals, events, etc., rather than to specific members.... A word like man is said to have a 'generic use' in reference to any human being, rather than male human beings in particular. Hence 'male generic' or 'generic masculine..." (P. H. Matthews, Oxford Concise Dictionary of Linguistics, p. 156).

    If this doesn't enter your skull and produce understanding, I can't help you. Just go ahead and keep insulting--I won't be here.
     
  3. John of Japan

    John of Japan Well-Known Member
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    Wow, I haven't been called a "know-it-all" since I was a kid. :Laugh Gave me a good laugh. Thanks!
     
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    You are acting like one!
     
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    SavedByGrace Well-Known Member

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    just one question that requires a yes or no answer. does the use of "ἀνὴρ" in Romans 4:8, and James 1:20, include both male and female?
     
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    No, John is acting like an OxBridge Don.
     
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  7. John of Japan

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    no answer for #85?
     
  9. John of Japan

    John of Japan Well-Known Member
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    I did answer it previously. Why should I answer it again? You simply did not pay attention. If you were one of my students I'd probably throw a white board eraser at you. :p
     
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    usual cop-out when you are wrong!
     
  11. John of Japan

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    Another good laugh. Thank you! :D You are entertaining when you insult, though I don't think you mean to be. If you are trying to hurt my feelings, it's not working. Keep up the insults, because "laughter doeth good like a medicine."
     
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  12. SavedByGrace

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    I am not insulting you but have a few times asked a very simple question which you avoid to answer and instead ask me to read various books!
     
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    One more time. Respond to Romans 4.8 and James 1.20
     
  14. John of Japan

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    Oh give me a break. #57. Pay attention! (And yes, you insulting. You don't even know it?)

    You were incredibly rude to Ziggy on another thread. And I guarantee you, he has forgotten more about the subject that thread was about than you know. I know him in person.
     
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    I did. They are the generic use of ἀνηρ. I even gave you a linguistic definition of generic usage, which you then completely ignored.

    Now go ahead, insult me again. I'll be waiting.
     
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    Fine. It's best that we never again comment on the others remarks. It is bye from me. I have no time for the likes of you
     
  17. John of Japan

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    Splendid. Another insult. "The likes of you" indeed. :p
     
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    :Laugh:Roflmao:rolleyes:
     
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    The conclusion: "This evidence favors the conclusion that use of masculine singular in English provides an *appropriate* match in meaning. *Ideology*, however, still puts pressure on translators not to allow such meanings in English."
     
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    But as I have already shown, Romans 4.8 and James 1.20 are examples where the word is used for both male and female. If not then show otherwise
     
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