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Sinner or not a sinner? Or Saint?

Discussion in '2004 Archive' started by LadyEagle, May 26, 2004.

  1. LadyEagle

    LadyEagle <b>Moderator</b> <img src =/israel.gif>

    Feb 7, 2002
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    All have sinned and come short of the Glory of God. Romans 3:23

    After a person is saved, is that person still a sinner? If so, how can a person who is indwelt by the Holy Spirit still be a sinner?

    Is the state of being a sinner separate from the act of sinning? Or are they one and the same?

    Also, remember Paul said " sinner of whom I am chief." Speaking in present tense, not past.

    If our sins are washed by the Blood, are we still sinners?

    Is a child of the King still a sinner?

    How can a person be a saint and a sinner at the same time? Isn't that contradictory?

    If we WERE dead in our trespasses and sins, but have been "quickened" by His Spirit, are we still sinners?

    If we are dead, buried, and resurrected with Christ, are we still sinners?

    Justification and sanctification - the difference?

  2. Craigbythesea

    Craigbythesea Active Member

    Oct 21, 2003
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    1 Tim. 1:15. This is a faithful saying and worthy of all acceptance, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners, of whom I am chief.
    1 Tim. 1:16. However, for this reason I obtained mercy, that in me first Jesus Christ might show all longsuffering, as a pattern to those who are going to believe on Him for everlasting life.

    Notice that in verse 16 Paul wrote of having received mercy in the past tense. His sins were in the past tense, he received mercy, God’s grace was applied to him, and he was cleansed from all his sin.

    I Cor. 15:9. For I am the least of the apostles, who am not worthy to be called an apostle, because I persecuted the church of God.

    Paul was the chief of sinners because he persecuted the church of God, an activity that was exclusively in the past.

    Romans 6

    1. What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin that grace may abound?
    2. Certainly not! How shall we who died to sin live any longer in it?
    3. Or do you not know that as many of us as were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into His death?
    4. Therefore we were buried with Him through baptism into death, that just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
    5. For if we have been united together in the likeness of His death, certainly we also shall be in the likeness of His resurrection,
    6. knowing this, that our old man was crucified with Him, that the body of sin might be done away with, that we should no longer be slaves of sin.
    7. For he who has died has been freed from sin.
    8. Now if we died with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with Him,
    9. knowing that Christ, having been raised from the dead, dies no more. Death no longer has dominion over Him.
    10. For the death that He died, He died to sin once for all; but the life that He lives, He lives to God.
    11. Likewise you also, reckon yourselves to be dead indeed to sin, but alive to God in Christ Jesus our Lord.
    12. Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body, that you should obey it in its lusts.
    13. And do not present your members as instruments of unrighteousness to sin, but present yourselves to God as being alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness to God.
    14. For sin shall not have dominion over you, for you are not under law but under grace.
    15. What then? Shall we sin because we are not under law but under grace? Certainly not!
    16. Do you not know that to whom you present yourselves slaves to obey, you are that one's slaves whom you obey, whether of sin to death, or of obedience to righteousness?
    17. But God be thanked that though you were slaves of sin, yet you obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine to which you were delivered.
    18. And having been set free from sin, you became slaves of righteousness.
    19. I speak in human terms because of the weakness of your flesh. For just as you presented your members as slaves of uncleanness, and of lawlessness leading to more lawlessness, so now present your members as slaves of righteousness for holiness.
    20. For when you were slaves of sin, you were free in regard to righteousness.
    21. What fruit did you have then in the things of which you are now ashamed? For the end of those things is death.
    22. But now having been set free from sin, and having become slaves of God, you have your fruit to holiness, and the end, everlasting life.
    23. For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.