So Where Do those Who hold To Arminianism Receive Their Assurance From?

We sometimes get what we give, but I will not give back railing for railing. But I will challenge doctrinal teaching.

 

Great, Web. You crack me up.

 

Love it. Very close to Arminian Hammer.

 

As in, Calvinists be prepared to duck all those arrows from the Non-Cals?

Or are we supposed to duck all those Arminian Hammers?

 

ok since I am new here what is the Armenian hmmer comment?

 

I think I'm responsible for chasing this rabbit. The idea is to come up with different terms to describe Calvinists and Non-Calvinists.

Baptist non-Cals get upset when you call them Arminian. In truth, if they believe in eternal security, they're not truly Arminian.

Calvinists bristle when the Arminians (uh,non-Cals) accuse them of being followers of Calvin.

So, go back and read some of the posts on this thread that deal with solving that problem. Then, if you'd like to contribute to our re-naming project, jump right in. It'll help if you start at the beginning, then you'll see how we hijacked this thread.

 

I already told you mine of it applies to me but not sure how many more, I am Pauline, follow the teaching of Paul through His epistles.

BTW does either of the Calvin dactrine or the Armenian doctrine believe in degrees of punishment for the unbeliever for eternity?

 

Both camps could have assurance problems. Calvinists may wonder if they were chosen, whereas Arminians may wonder if they have true "saving faith."

Assurance should rest in the relationship itself, not in a fading memory of a "decision" you made years ago when you walked the aisle. The Holy Spirit changes a life and there are distinct fruits of a child of God. If those fruits don't exist and don't appear to be growing in your life you shouldn't be assured of anything.

 

I will take that for a future challange but for the present...Whatever.

 

Thanks you for at least thinking about it

 

Tell me, when you stand before your maker, what process will He use to assess your life?

 

He will look up and see Christ who is my redeemer and see His righteousness imputed to me because of my faith in Him.

2 Tim. 1: 12 For the which cause I also suffer these things: nevertheless I am not ashamed: for I know whom I have believed, and am persuaded that he is able to keep that which I have committed unto him against that day.

 

Are you a mid-Acts dispensationalist?
Do you believe that "the mystery" of "the age of grace" was given to Paul first and that Paul taught a different gospel from the other Apostles and Jesus in His earthly ministry?

 

Guess not never heard any of this.

 

Do you take trips to the moon on gossamer wings?

 

If one hasn't heard of the mid-acts dispensationalism not sure how to answer the rest of the question

 

sorry, just having fun at your expense.....I have been described as winsome. I think that is a classy word for childish.

Anyway, God is Sovereign....Praise the Lord!

 

As you see no offence was taken

 

Most of the time when I hear one say he or she follows Paul or is "Pauline" in doctrine it is because one is a mid-Acts dispensationalist who believes that only the doctrine from Paul's epistles is entirely for "The Body of Christ."

 

While Paul wrote to the differnet churches His teachings apply to both saved and unsaved. He tells the unsaved about their condition and the believer about living for Christ and gives us knowledge of what God has accomplished for us.
Does that answer your question?