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Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by Salty, Jun 27, 2022.

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  1. Salty

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    So, Jon - how often do you Time travel?
     
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    The GOP posit
    Trump said should, but will not be coerced or mandated.
     
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    Twice a year. You wouldn't think Trump and Biden would be going at it in 2029, but they are. :Thumbsup
     
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    Yes, I agree.

    But at the same time (during the Trump Administration) the military regs were changed to allow forced vaccinations for those in service.
     
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    So what?
     
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    So I think it is a bad idea. Before you force a shot, just let the people go.

    Why did you support the GOP move to allow forced vaccinations of our service members?
     
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    Sigh, service members have always had "forced" vaccinations. They even took out my wisdom teeth that had nothing wrong with them. In the service our bodies are not our own. Not an equal comparison to anything else.
     
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    I've been told that you could get an Article 15 for getting sunburned!
     
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    Before I joined the Marine Corps Rodeo Team I had to get my CO's written permission. Anything with a risk of injury or death not sanctioned by the Military can get you in trouble. If you get sunburned and it effects your ability to do your mission then yes it can get you in trouble.
     
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    No. Service members could decline vaccines in the past.

    You even acknowledged this:

    Point being, it was under Trump that military members could be forced to take a vaccine (not dishonorably discharged if they done, but actually forced to be vaccinated).

    AR 600-20 (paragraph 5-4) states that when it is determined the "threat of naturally occurring disease is reasonably possible soldiers may be involuntarily immunized" and performing this duty, unit personnel will "only use the amount of force necessary to assist medical personnel in administering the immunization."

    Buy....this was a change. Paragraph 5-4 was added July 2020. Kinda strange timing. What vaccines would the Administration in charge be so concerned about, I wonder, that would warrant such a change? Maybe it was just a bad flu season.

    So exactly how would this not happen under the Trump Administration? What Administration was in control in 2020?
     

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    Not only that, but if you get sunburned while working your squad leader to platoon leader can get in trouble.
     
    #51 JonC, Jun 30, 2022
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