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Some Liberty University Grads Are Returning Their Diplomas To Protest Trump

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  1. Crabtownboy

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    A group of alumni from one of the country's most influential evangelical Christian universities is condemning their school's president for his continued alignment with President Trump.

    A small but growing number of Liberty University graduates are preparing to return diplomas to their school. The graduates are protesting university President Jerry Falwell Jr.'s ongoing support for Trump. They began organizing after Trump's divisive remarks about the deadly white supremacist protests in Charlottesville, Va.

    Chris Gaumer, a former Student Government Association president and 2006 graduate, said it was a simple decision.

    "I'm sending my diploma back because the president of the United States is defending Nazis and white supremacists," Gaumer said. "And in defending the president's comments, Jerry Falwell Jr. is making himself and, it seems to me, the university he represents, complicit."

    In a group letter being prepared to be sent to university officials, several alumni declare their intention to return their diplomas and call for Falwell to repudiate Trump's remarks:

    "While this state of affairs has been in place for many months, the Chancellor's recent comments on the attack upon our neighbors in Charlottesville have brought our outrage and our sorrow to a boiling point. During the Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville, white supremacists, nationalists, and neo-Nazis perpetrated brutal violence against anti-racist protesters, murdering one woman and injuring many. Instead of condemning racist and white nationalist ideologies, Mr. Trump provided equivocal and contradictory comments. The Chancellor then characterized Mr. Trump's remarks, which included the claim that some of the persons marching as white nationalists and white supremacists at the rally were 'very fine people,' as 'bold' and 'truthful.' This is incompatible with Liberty University's stated values, and incompatible with a Christian witness."

    Georgia Hamann, a 2006 alumna and an attorney in Phoenix, Ariz., helped pen the letter.

    "We're asking that Liberty University return to its stated values and accept that the pursuit of power is leading it into some dark places, and really repudiate that," she said. "The word in Baptist and evangelical circles is 'repent.'... You know, truly a turning away from wrong conduct."

    Alumni who can't find their diplomas are being asked to sign the group letter or write individual letters to Falwell expressing their concerns.

    Some Liberty graduates see Falwell's association with Trump as both a personal liability and a moral embarrassment. Rebekah Tilley graduated from Liberty in 2002 and now works in higher education in Iowa.

    "I was to the point where I didn't even want to include my alma mater on my resume when I was applying for jobs, just because I think that can be so loaded," Tilley said. "There's such a strong affiliation now between Liberty University and President Trump that you know that reflects badly on all alumni."

    For Doug Johnson Hatlem, a 1999 graduate who now works as a Mennonite pastor in Ontario, Canada, Charlottesville feels like a tipping point for many alumni who have been concerned about the university's association with Trump.

    "It really is a watershed moment to have people openly chanting Nazi chants ... holding white supremacist signs, and carrying weapons along with all of that, and killing somebody, injuring many in the process," he said. "For there not to be an unconditional condemnation of that kind of action and behavior is just completely anathema."

    Johnson Hatlem said returning diplomas is an important symbolic statement.

    "I'll have to have my mom dig it out of storage," he said. "But I do plan to send back my diploma to Liberty."


    Some Liberty University Grads Are Returning Their Diplomas To Protest Trump
     
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    Good. I am sure Falwell will lose about one second of sleep over it.
     
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    If Donald Trump cured cancer you would call him a racist because he did not cure Cicle Cell Anemia.
     
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    I think you mean Sickle Cell Anemia.
     
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    Meanwhile on the other side of the aisle, Democrat Robert F. Kennedy Jr says of Trump:

    Donald Trump could be the greatest president in history if he wanted to, he could easily be the next Teddy Roosevelt.

    "I think Donald Trump can be, you know, any kind of president he wants. He’s actually — he has this extraordinary opportunity because he’s coming into office less burdened by obligation than probably any president in our history with the possible exception of Andrew Jackson.”

    “And you know, both of them, Jackson and Trump came in, people were outraged when Jackson came in and they thought it was the end of the world.”

     
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    No, actually I mean Sickle-Cell Anemia.
     
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    I find it interesting how they don't allow comments on this piece.
     
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    It's what's expected from the snowflake generation. An absolutely meaningless gesture.

    Wonder how many of them had all their educational credits at the university cancelled and removed from the records?
     
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    I thought it was a very bad precedent to back Donald Trump.
     
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    I thought and still think it was a wonderful decision to endorse Trump.
     
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    Why would a Christian University endorse a man who says he has no need to repent? It is like a prophet in ancient Israel endorsing King Ahab.
     
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    This reminds me of when anti-war groups were able to get (supposedly) Viet Nam veterans to toss their medals across the White House fence.
     
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    Here's your chance to tell us exactly who a Christian WOULD support.
     
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    What an opportunity to witness!!!

    Makes me think of the example of a pre-teen who has grown up in a Christian home - is saved, baptised and becomes a great disciple.
    then you consider the example of a drunk and ect of many years & comes to church - is saved, baptised and becomes a great disciple

    Which is the greater miracle????
     
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    You support issues that are morally and ethically in line with God's word. You don't support persons who openly contradict God's word by their actions and attitudes.
    If a Christian is going to run for office then the Christian must oppose evil, even if the Party approves of evil. God will either raise up that person or not.
    Nothing about Donald Trump deserves support from the church or a Christian University.
     
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    Witness? Witness believers endorse immorality? Why would you like that?
     
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    Jonathan Falwell is supposed to speak at our church for our 40th anniversary celebration. I'll return my diploma to him in person.
     
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    LOL. So you couldn't vote for anyone. Got it.
     
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    Indeed, I could not vote for the Oompa Loompa or for Hildabeast.
     
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    A pathetically useless grandstanding gesture, just like the rest of the snowflakes.
     
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