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  1. atpollard

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    Please point me to something specific.
    I don’t like condemning Christians with unsupported rumors.

    I can tell you with complete certainty that every one of the people that attempted to teach any of the untruths listed above (like divine health) at the Pentecostal Church that I attended was shown to the door. None of those were ever taught in any of the Churches of God that I attended. None of those were ever taught in the non-cessationist Baptist Churches that I have attended.

    So even if true of some (and some cessationists teach Hypercalvinism), it does not apply to most.
     
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    All recognized word of faith teachers spew forth endless heresies!
     
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    I see, so you have nothing specific to point to ... just general slanders to spew.

    OK, thank you.
     
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    Some do. Some don't.
     
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    I took a moment.
    I read all of it (and it was quite a wall of text).
    I am only responding at all out of respect for your polite request ... I would otherwise follow nana's advice and if I had nothing nice to say, say nothing at all.

    Relax, I have no axe to grind nor anything to gain by being rude. I see the same weakness in Mr Curtiss argument that I see in yours ... he is presenting both sides with nothing to back up his claims. Curtiss tells me what all these 20th Century heretics teach, but he directly quotes NONE of them or provides a verifiable reference where I can hear them say what he claims and examine the context to see if Mr Curtiss is correctly understanding and representing what they teach.

    At the end of the day, Mr Curtiss demonstrates nothing more or less than he has the skill to set up and knock down strawmen. As the Bible says: "The first to plead his case seems right, Until another comes and examines him." [Proverbs 18:17 NASB]

    We have only heard one side which has refused to directly quote the other side. So I will withhold judgement until the rumors are replaced with facts (Deuteronomy 19:15 “One witness shall not rise against a man concerning any iniquity or any sin that he commits; by the mouth of two or three witnesses the matter shall be established.")
     
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    Show me one known and national WoF teacher that is not spreading heresy then!
     
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    Pretty clear case against WoF here, as saying Jesus was spiritual dead and had to get born again in hell, and that every believer is a little god pretty much heresy...
     
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    That is heresy, but there is really no reason to believe that ALL WoF teachers believe that, or that MOST WoF teachers believe that ... since neither You nor Mr. Curtiss have produced even a single verifiable quote from EVEN ONE WoF teacher saying that.

    For all I know, NOT EVEN ONE WoF TEACHER BELIEVES THAT, and you have presented nothing to change my mind except “because you say so”.

    That is not what Deuteronomy 19:15 calls for as the level of proof to establish sin as a fact. Where is the eyewitness testimony of 2 or 3 reliable witness to the fact? Who said it? What did they say, exactly? When and where was it said?
     
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    Six hour warning
    This thread will be closed no sooner than 3 AM EST / Midnight PST
     
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    1. Six hours is 3:02 AM EST (so it is a 5 hour, 58 minute warning). :Biggrin
    2. Personally, I have my doubts that “Tele-Evangelist Word of Faith” Preachers are really a “Southern Baptist” thing, so I guess it probably is time for a reboot. ;)
     
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    You have now raised the bar to National. There is a big difference between known and national.
     
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    This thread is closed
    Feel free to start a new one
     
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