1. Welcome to Baptist Board, a friendly forum to discuss the Baptist Faith in a friendly surrounding.

    Your voice is missing! You will need to register to get access to all the features that our community has to offer.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon and God Bless!

Featured Spurgeon on Creeds

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by asterisktom, Jun 1, 2022.

Top Posters
Page 1 of 2
  1. asterisktom

    asterisktom Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    May 29, 2007
    Messages:
    4,216
    Likes Received:
    619
    Faith:
    Baptist
    "If your creed and Scripture do not agree, cut your creed to pieces, but make it agree with this book. If there be anything in the church to which you belong which is contrary to the inspired word, leave that church." Charles Charles Haddon Spurgeon

    Discuss. I'll make coffee.

    Do we think that, centuries after the Scribes and Pharisees, people are no longer able to make the Word of God of no effect with traditions of men?
     
    #1 asterisktom, Jun 1, 2022
  2. Van

    Van Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2011
    Messages:
    27,723
    Likes Received:
    1,064
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Lip service leaders say all the right things but do not act accordingly. Are the creeds and confessions proclaiming Calvinism still with us, or have they been cut to ribbons. Do those traditions make the Word of God to no effect to this day? Yes indeed.
     
    #2 Van, Jun 1, 2022
    • Funny Funny x 1
  3. JesusFan

    JesusFan Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2011
    Messages:
    8,913
    Likes Received:
    240
    What would be the traditions of men today?
     
    #3 JesusFan, Jun 1, 2022
  4. asterisktom

    asterisktom Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    May 29, 2007
    Messages:
    4,216
    Likes Received:
    619
    Faith:
    Baptist
    They could be anything that is not expressly in the Word of God: Not only creeds, but lesser literature, cultural theology, you name it. Everything, like Spurgeon wrote, needs always to be judged by Scripture. Everything.
     
    #4 asterisktom, Jun 1, 2022
    • Like Like x 1
    • Agree Agree x 1
  5. asterisktom

    asterisktom Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    May 29, 2007
    Messages:
    4,216
    Likes Received:
    619
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Many of the Creeds the Calvinists embrace do have errors IMO. But not just theirs. BTW, I consider myself Reformed but with an asterisk.)
     
    #5 asterisktom, Jun 1, 2022
    • Like Like x 1
  6. kyredneck

    kyredneck Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2009
    Messages:
    20,011
    Likes Received:
    2,951
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Lol, 'their' error is all Van sees.
     
    #6 kyredneck, Jun 1, 2022
  7. asterisktom

    asterisktom Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    May 29, 2007
    Messages:
    4,216
    Likes Received:
    619
    Faith:
    Baptist
    I imagine you are right. Its a shame because Reformed writers have done some profound and edifying work. I have benefited greatly by studying them, Owen and Bunyan especially.
     
    #7 asterisktom, Jun 1, 2022
    • Like Like x 2
  8. Martin Marprelate

    Martin Marprelate Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2010
    Messages:
    8,829
    Likes Received:
    2,108
    Faith:
    Baptist
    People should know that Spurgeon re-published the Baptist 1689 Confession, and had a copy buried in the foundation of the Met Tab.
     
    #8 Martin Marprelate, Jun 1, 2022
    • Like Like x 1
    • Informative Informative x 1
  9. Reynolds

    Reynolds Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Jun 15, 2014
    Messages:
    13,828
    Likes Received:
    2,477
    Faith:
    Baptist
    I am not big on creeds. Most people who are cute creeds more often than Scripture.
     
    #9 Reynolds, Jun 1, 2022
  10. Reformed1689

    Reformed1689 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2019
    Messages:
    9,903
    Likes Received:
    1,820
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Oh Van, as usual you spout absurdities. :Laugh:Roflmao
     
    #10 Reformed1689, Jun 1, 2022
    • Winner Winner x 2
  11. asterisktom

    asterisktom Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    May 29, 2007
    Messages:
    4,216
    Likes Received:
    619
    Faith:
    Baptist
    I noticed that too, even though they often deny it. (I assume you meant "quote")
     
    #11 asterisktom, Jun 1, 2022
  12. Van

    Van Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2011
    Messages:
    27,723
    Likes Received:
    1,064
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Off topic personal insult post. Must be tolerated or ignored because no protection is provided.
     
    #12 Van, Jun 1, 2022
  13. Van

    Van Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2011
    Messages:
    27,723
    Likes Received:
    1,064
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Off topic personal insult post. Must be tolerated or ignored because no protection is provided.
     
    #13 Van, Jun 1, 2022
  14. Reformed1689

    Reformed1689 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2019
    Messages:
    9,903
    Likes Received:
    1,820
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Oh yeah because you are such a victim :rolleyes:
     
    #14 Reformed1689, Jun 1, 2022
    • Agree Agree x 2
    • Funny Funny x 1
  15. 5 point Gillinist

    5 point Gillinist Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 12, 2022
    Messages:
    465
    Likes Received:
    130
    Faith:
    Baptist
    I understand the point of creeds (WMCF, 1689, etc.), I understand that they are a way to sum up what it is you believe. That being said when people demand to know your creeds, place a heavy emphasis upon the creed itself, having sunday school on the creed, and start tattooing 1689 on their fingers I kind of think the point of the creed has been missed.
     
    #15 5 point Gillinist, Jun 1, 2022
    • Agree Agree x 1
  16. Reformed1689

    Reformed1689 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2019
    Messages:
    9,903
    Likes Received:
    1,820
    Faith:
    Baptist
    The point of a confession is to express WHAT you believe about the Bible. You can't just say "I believe the Bible" that doesn't tell us anything about what you actually believe as evidenced on this forum.
     
    #16 Reformed1689, Jun 1, 2022
    • Agree Agree x 2
  17. 5 point Gillinist

    5 point Gillinist Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 12, 2022
    Messages:
    465
    Likes Received:
    130
    Faith:
    Baptist
    That is what I meant - I might not have said that clearly. That being said they are useful. It is when the aforementioned happens that it just becomes nauseating.
     
    #17 5 point Gillinist, Jun 1, 2022
    • Like Like x 1
    • Agree Agree x 1
  18. Reynolds

    Reynolds Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Jun 15, 2014
    Messages:
    13,828
    Likes Received:
    2,477
    Faith:
    Baptist
    I did. I need to turn auto correct off.
     
    #18 Reynolds, Jun 1, 2022
  19. Van

    Van Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2011
    Messages:
    27,723
    Likes Received:
    1,064
    Faith:
    Baptist
    In the Big Sleep, Bogart refers to people like you, "first they kick your teeth out, then they punch you for mumbling," or words to that effect.
     
    #19 Van, Jun 1, 2022
    • Funny Funny x 1
  20. kyredneck

    kyredneck Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2009
    Messages:
    20,011
    Likes Received:
    2,951
    Faith:
    Baptist
    My experience with the creeds/confessions on the BB is that many don't question it, they cease thinking on their own (if they ever did) and conform to the box.
     
    #20 kyredneck, Jun 2, 2022
(You must log in or sign up to post here.)
Page 1 of 2
Loading...